Does EVERYONE need to know what Kindred marks???

OhWanderer··2 votes·1,943 views

I know it is an intentional design, that everyone can see Kindred's passive, but I find it to be extremely hard to actually get stacks from that. It is to the point, after playing multiple games, that it is virtually impossible get stacks from it and is ruining her game play like a bug. I do not understand why everyone would be able to see Kindred's target, are they not supposed to be going unnoticed to everyone except their target at the time of death? Not only is it hard to get the wolf passive, but lambs is also EXTREMELY difficult with the amount of time it takes to charge/set after it is triggered. You can also apply to the lamb passive that everyone except the target should not be able to see it, that would still keep the scary "I'm coming for you" factor to play with and would then require the enemy team to communicate with each other. If you still think the original design where everyone could see your marks is the best then I would suggest maybe having her q priorities champs and then her abilities, minus her ult, have decreased CD when they are used on a marked target. Again, I put this here because they are acting like bugs and completely take away from kindred being the fun character that jumps around is is constantly kiting everything and requiring you to put your attention on them, If I understand it right.

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IcyPepper2 votes

The whole point of Kindred's existence is to represent the two kinds of Death: the acceptance and calm death, and denial and the brutal death that follows.

You know that Death is coming for you. The question is, do you accept it or will you try to escape your fate? Or in gameplay terms, are you going to fight her, risking another mark, or are you going to be watching over your shoulder and fleeing at sight?

OhWanderer1 votes

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The whole point of Kindred's existence is to represent the two kinds of Death: the acceptance and calm death, and denial and the brutal death that follows.

You know that Death is coming for you. The question is, do you accept it or will you try to escape your fate? Or in gameplay terms, are you going to fight her, risking another mark, or are you going to be watching over your shoulder and fleeing at sight?

FFS do you people not know what reading something before commenting on it is??? Like I understand, and have already acknowledged, the fact that kindred is a character that clearly lets you know "they are coming." your post makes absolutly zero sense and is honestly offensive, that you would assume upon that level of incompetence, in other words i read the D*** lore... My issue, and ultimate point, is that with EVERYONE knowing what jung monster you will be trying to kill makes no sense and is honestly stupid. You and your target know what is going on, but every other human being is not in on the plot. The fact, as stated in a comment above, is that kindreds passive already requires both sides to utilize gmaplay that already exists, but allowing everyone to see what she is doing doesnt actually allow for that. For example, in a senario where no one can see kindreds wolf passive target except for obviously kindred, if you as the enemy jng to a kindred know your jung and scuttle are going to be key targets for kindred all you have to do is ward your jng and check/take scuttle periodically. These are objectives you as a jng _**should **_already be doing, but having it so that EVERYONE CAN SEE WHERE YOU ARE MORE THAN LIKELY GOING, it doesnt allow for ANY counter play on your part, except turning into Shaco, ignoring the fact you have that passive and and deceptively avoiding those areas. ON THAT NOTE, kindred does not say "I AM GOING TO KILL YOU," marks you, then completely goes and kills some one else for no reason what so ever, that strategy is completely off lore and is not a kindred I want to play. If you get marked you die, weather quickly by lamb or CHASED down by wolf, not ignored and used as a distraction. Kindred is straight forward, quick and is there and out before anyone knows it or, undetected, slowly killing their prey (wolf). Obviously if you are chasing some one in game you can be seen by others on their map, the reason I like kindred is because it rewards you for being a good and skillful player, and everyone seeing your target defeats that, including lambs portion of the passive. if no one knows who lambs target is, the idea of everyone getting paranoid is amplified because kindred who was just trying to kill top lane obviously has marked the top laner, but WAIT! WHAT? SHE IS TRYING TO KILL ME?? Darn, i got to cocky and got tricked into thinking top lane was marked when I was the one marked and i let my guard down and she killed me. This idea, of Kindred"s passive being undetectable to everyone except the target, makes kindred a lot more dynamic and captures that aspect of fear and paranoia that she would en still as per her lore, because no one is safe and not everyone technically has a reason to fear her, its a big mind game.

IcyPepper1 votes

your post makes absolutly zero sense and is honestly offensive

Well, um, sorry I guess?

360D3GR3SS2 votes

yes

OhWanderer1 votes

What is the "yes" for? LOL XD

360D3GR3SS3 votes

Everyone does need to know who kindred marks.

OhWanderer1 votes

That was a not a legitimate question, I did not want an answer. I was presenting a question that would grab your attention so you would read the explanation of my opinion of the question.

360D3GR3SS3 votes

Then why the hell would you title your post with a question? Don't title it as a question if you don't want it answered. As far as im concerned this post is already a waste of time because it pertains to an extremely trivial and nearly irrelevant part of her kit. Her power doesn't come from her passive but from her other abilities. Her passive is just a small bonus, a nice one at that but to focus on "if everyone can see it i can't get them" is just stupid.

OhWanderer1 votes

If you aren't even going to use it that much then why even have it?

Diatonix2 votes

Also, the point is not to make a passive for % hp damage easy to obtain. There should always be counterplay

OhWanderer1 votes

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Also, the point is not to make a passive for % hp damage easy to obtain. There should always be counterplay

Do you read shit before you comment on it? im just asking because i definitely acknowledge this in the post. My point is in the lore everyone on the ******* earth does not have knowledge of who kindred is killing. IN FACT! The opposite is true which is what makes her scary. You would still have the one you mark know that he is marked and tbh it does not really matter if lambs portion of the passive is known by all, though it still makes zero sense, but the point of wolfs portion of it is to encourage you to basically do something that as a jungler you should already be doing. By making it so that a kindred forces you to ACTUALLY BE AWARE OF THE MAP AND PLACE WARDS might be a good thing, it might improve teh community because they will go "oh shit, a kindred jung, better actually pay attention to the game or she will be fed off her passive." Their counter play to the wolf passive would be simply being aware, and it would be SOOOO easy to do, a ridiculously easy counter. The fact that no one has to actually try to find where kindreds f****** Wolf passive is is completely over powered and unnecessary. Think of it this way, as a jungle, that isnt kindred, and trying to counter jung or travel through enemy jung is really risky right? The fact that a passive already requires you to do this inspite of the risk in order to successfully get fed is enough "counter play" as it is.

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