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Riot should we make it so that Flash is always taken and having the ability of a extra summoner?

Chespin2013·10/6/2015, 9:54:09 AM·3 votes·726 views

As we all know with TP being quite strong right now and how it is a requirement more or less to be effective in the top lane. This got me thinking of why not just having Flash available to everyone and giving us the choice of having more summoners to choose from. Say your a jungler lets say Amumu you already know that you need summoner 11 to take camps and with summoner 4 automatically on every champion gives you more flexibility of what too choose. summoner 14 can be taken to help with kill securing and helping out in duels its already a summoner used by a jungler like Shaco since he has no real need for flash since he has a blink on his Q and how Ignite helps a lot with securing kills as shaco. summoner 3 is also a underrated spell thats usually taken by the support role and sometimes mid to deal with those pesky assassins this spell can be really nice having it on champions that have no real cc junglers like MasterYi would love this since they can finally get some kills and maybe get out of the jungle once in a while and gank this helps a lot with the toxic PVE element of the item 3930 since the devourer junglers have a incredibly weak early game and ganks. There's a lot of possibilities with these kind of changes done to summoner spells and we can see more diversity alone with adding more summoners spells. I might get flake for this but Revive shouldn't comeback its a summoner spell that's encouraging you to die with no punishments really involved in it. Look at a game like Dota 2 where people are punished heavily for dying they not only have to wait to comeback but they also lose gold from dying. Also making new summoner spells would be awesome to have out on the rift. I would love having the summoner 32 from ARAM to help engage for my team this can potentially make champions like Galio Fiddlesticks much stronger as well. Or what about a summoner spell that refreshed my CD's? How about making {{summoner:17}} stronger we already see things like in Dota 2 where you reinforce your towers this summoner could use some love.

TLDR: summoner 4 should be changed to where its always taken to allow more summoner spell diversity since its a necessity blocking for more uses in summoner spells.

7 Comments

ValyrianBlade10/6/2015, 1:03:05 PM2 votes

Not taking flash can give you an advantage in some circumstances. Like you said, a jungler that may benefit from Ignite (also, stuff like Ghost+tele or Ignite+tele top lane).

Giving everyone flash for free eliminates the strategic diversity, it doesn't broaden it. Sure, you'll see more of other summoners, but everyone will have flash. You'll find more cases where the same 3 summoners are always used - in all likelihood teleport will be taken on 70% or more of champions. So suddenly you have to ask if teleport should be given to everyone for free - where do you draw the line?

It's good that flash is a staple - it's a safe summoner to take that's always useful. It's predictable. It's great that you can really mess with an enemy by swapping flash out for ignite or exhaust. Suddenly they need to deal with something they're not used to. There's likely a good number of cases where another summoner is more optimal than flash and people just never find them because they're too scared to deviate from the meta. e.g. Junglers with weak gank potential pre 6 (but still good damage) might hugely benefit from taking exhaust over flash to secure a couple easy kills on early ganks - but they'll never try it. Even in lower elos where they probably don't need flash because they're not going to get invaded pre-6 in most matches (and post 6 they have some ability that makes up for lacking flash, not to mention having the lower cooldown exhaust which is infinitely better in 1v1s).

SLangedEdge10/6/2015, 5:41:35 PM2 votes

Get rid of summoner spells. You want strategic diversity; tp scrolls and items like force/blink a la dota.

Summoner spells are poorly balanced and lack all diversity. Also flash started this whole mobility creep and it should be fixed.

Robo2310/6/2015, 10:13:53 AM1 votes

yes but they need a way of making a quick escape. And that must cost u

Blazing Tenshi10/6/2015, 10:16:23 AM1 votes

Because we really want to see ignite on junglers and summoner 3 + summoner 14 mid lane.

colesy10/6/2015, 1:21:57 PM1 votes

so basically every top laner takes tp + ignite so that not only can they snowball their lane but they can have map presence too? midlaners take ignite + exhaust because having 1 summoner to secure a kill just wasn't enough? adcs take heal + exh so the moment they hit 2 items they can duel like pretty much any assassin?

wtf?