"The cooldown increase on her E from that patch didn't offset the strength of the Q buff in higher levels of solo queue games, and our intent wasn't to buff her in that patch."
It only took 8 weeks of Riven consistently being one of and sometimes the highest win, ban and pick rate and constant player feedback telling you she's overtuned for you to figure this one out.
But hey, thanks for finally doing it.
Jimmy Rustles28 votesNow we just wait for her to climb back to 55% win rate
WoonStruck31 votesMaybe they'll finally make it so the CD starts after the final Q cast.
MalignMetal10 votesIf only.
Barkley3 votesMy friend this is the boards. Your logic has no place here.
Illidan is HOT2 votesMaybe they'll finally make it so the CD starts after the final Q cast.
Maybe they'll finally remove Vladimir from the game so boosted people don't abuse him being completely braindead champion.
enshine1 votesMaybe they'll finally make it so the CD starts after the final Q cast.
god that would be such a shit change
champ would literally be in the gutter
WoonStruck4 votesLmao its been like that before and she wasn't in the gutter. Too bad all the silver Riven mains crutched on their champion bitched because it was on PBE.
Obviously it wouldn't keep its 12 second CD if the CD started after the final cast.
preternatural10 votesarcade event is over lads, we don't have to milk arcade riven discounts for that ez double marked up skrilla anymore. thank goodness they didn't riot about her being blatantly broken for 2 months.
5050BS1 votes100% This ^
Garen is adopted6 votesNow shes literally unplayable, pls riot give her 200% ad scaling on her ult.
boricCentaur11 votesIt took 8 weeks of her having normal statistics and still does, with buffs and nerfs to other champions. Winrate means nothing if you think it does stop using statistics.
Yeah no riven was not good 8 weeks ago and is good now because of changes in the meta.
Hi im 1226 votesriven hasn't been "not good" even once since release.
General Esdeath 2 votes[{quoted}](name=Hi im 12,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xFAmhE5u,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-14T02:46:12.657+0000)
riven hasn't been "not good" even once since release.
Tank meta
Hi im 122 votesyeah she was still good, at no point has there been no riven players in challenger, hence shes always been good when played well.
General Esdeath 1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hi im 12,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xFAmhE5u,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-15T00:41:59.240+0000)
yeah she was still good, at no point has there been no riven players in challenger, hence shes always been good when played well.
I wouldn't say she was good, she was just better at dealing with them because of Fervor and her animation cancelling with Q AA.
Hi im 123 votesif a champion is viable at the top 200 players its a good fucking champion mate
General Esdeath 2 votes[{quoted}](name=Hi im 12,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xFAmhE5u,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-15T01:07:45.508+0000)
if a champion is viable at the top 200 players its a good fucking champion mate
That's almost all champions
Hi im 122 votesI can list 90% of the champions for you and there isn't a one trick of that champion in challenger on every region, this has never been the case for riven though.
General Esdeath 2 votes[{quoted}](name=Hi im 12,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xFAmhE5u,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-15T01:54:08.036+0000)
I can list 90% of the champions for you and there isn't a one trick of that champion in challenger on every region, this has never been the case for riven though.
so are we talking about viable or one tricks? Because there's a huge difference between those.
Hi im 122 votesa champion being "viable" in 1 game out of a 100 where its a specific counter pick is very different to riven where "oh I pick her literally every game and maintain high wr in challenger", a lot of champions are "viable" in different situations but very few are "viable" to one trick into challenger.
General Esdeath 1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hi im 12,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xFAmhE5u,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-15T11:19:28.224+0000)
a champion being "viable" in 1 game out of a 100 where its a specific counter pick is very different to riven where "oh I pick her literally every game and maintain high wr in challenger", a lot of champions are "viable" in different situations but very few are "viable" to one trick into challenger.
idk how many one tricks were in challenger in seasons 4 and 5. I only know what my diamond friend told me back then, challenger is more about macro play.
Hi im 121 votesthere were around 4-10 per server as usual
General Esdeath 1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hi im 12,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xFAmhE5u,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-16T11:58:48.865+0000)
there were around 4-10 per server as usual
4-10 for riven or just one tricks in general?
Hi im 121 votespretty much both since rivens pretty much the only champion that has one tricks in challenger, 4-10 for rivens tho
Barkley14 votesAnyone who thinks Riven isn't one of the most long-standing and consistently busted champs in the game is fooling themselves.
boricCentaur12 votesAnyone who thinks Riven isn't one of the most long-standing and consistently busted champs in the game is fooling themselves.
Stop lying to yourself we get you to can't fight riven because you just want easy games. If you actually think riven was consistently strong this season you are just biased and should be complain about anything since you base it off nothing but what YOU don't lile.
There is actually 0 reason to pick riven over Aatrox.
MaFyO21541 votesHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!!!
Z3SIeeper10 voteshttps://u.gg/lol/tier-list/?role=top&rank=master_plus
The statistics are right there, open your eyes.
2nd highest winrate 3rd highest pickrate 4th highest banrate
No other champion holds even 2 top 5 spots in any of those categories but Riven holds 3. ######(other than Rengar, but he's banned for his jg as well)
boricCentaur11 voteshttps://u.gg/lol/tier-list/?role=top&rank=master_plus
The statistics are right there, open your eyes.
2nd highest winrate 3rd highest pickrate 4th highest banrate
No other champion holds even 2 top 5 spots in any of those categories but Riven holds 3. ######(other than Rengar, but he's banned for his jg as well)
And if you look at her stats over 8 weeks she holds none of those places consistently but winrate YOU KNOW WHAT I SAID. Funny want you bring up something that just proves you are biased and you just hate riven not because she is strong but because YOU have something against the champion.
9.11: 2nd highest Winrate,4th highest pickrate and 9th highest banrate.
I used the same site as you too.
Riven was nerfed because of people playing bad not because she is op, there is 0 reason to pick her over others.
FSRER1 votesYeah, they were working on the new achievements to pay any attention on the actual gameplay
SiG DxD1 votesthe comment looks a bit braindead
Salron881 votesfunny how i yelled for 1 whole season saying that the problem with riven was her q spam and got downvoted to oblivion by "riot forum minions" but now riot actually gets it that her E was never the problem to begin with -_-
Z3SIeeper3 votesHer Q is being reverted to 12s seconds still down from 13s pre-9.10.
Her E was definitely a problem but when they fixed it they created a bigger one by buffing Q. Now that's kinda fixed too. She's still gonna be good as hell in high elo but not as dominant as she has been.