Malzahar, Miss Fortune & Zyra support. And now, even Camille was picked for Support.
This is pretty much a sign that actual supports are deep in the gutter. Either hard-nerf the following mentioned out of meta supports, or revert back all the nerfs you gave to the actual Support champions.
Maximum Morde2 votesNo. Soraka needs a rework. Not buffs.
Oleandervine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xEkKd0WH,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-01-30T12:15:54.082+0000)
No. Soraka needs a rework. Not buffs.
Eh, that's debatable. I think she can be fixed with number tweaks and minor kit changes. Really, her biggest problem is her W and how strongly she synergizes with Windspeaker and with the Forbidden Idol items.
Maximum Morde1 votesNo. Her identity as heal bitch has to go. That means rework.
Oleandervine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xEkKd0WH,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-01-30T12:59:12.317+0000)
No. Her identity as heal bitch has to go. That means rework.
That's her only identity. They need to work on the numbers involved, and not rework her again. The rest of her kit is fine (Q, E, R). It's just the insane way that W interacts with the heal/shield boosts that make her too much to handle.
Maximum Morde1 votesThat's the problem. It's a terrible identity. That's why she needs a rework to give her a new one.
Oleandervine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xEkKd0WH,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-30T15:18:45.543+0000)
That's the problem. It's a terrible identity. That's why she needs a rework to give her a new one.
It's not a terrible identity, being the game's main healer isn't a bad identity at all. It's a hell of a lot better than armored man who has to chase you down with a dead dragon.
BIackfox3 votes[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xEkKd0WH,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-01-30T12:15:54.082+0000)
No. Soraka needs a rework. Not buffs.
No.
Maximum Morde2 votesYes.
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesPlease oh please, don't even think about reverting any of Camille's current nerfs in PBE.
Oleandervine1 votesCamille picked as a support is not a sign of anything. I've tried it when she first came out, and while I can see it having situational uses, she's terrible at the role. She has absolutely no peel other than her E, and her CDs are a little too high for her to be effective. Real supports can counter her at pretty much every aspect and can do anything she can do better. The ideal for a Camille support is hoping to do well and allowing her to start building as an offensive off-carry, but getting to that point without botching your lane is very very difficult, and not worth the effort unless you have a really kick ass ADC. Malzahar and Miss Fortune, likewise, are situational supports, and they are gimmicky, and outclassed by pretty much every real support. Zyra has been a legit support going on 3 years now (since her launch). Why is this still shocking to people?
Mecha MaIphite1 votesAnd yet the top supports are all actual supports/tanks.
???
BeatzBoyFTW2 votesCamille doesn't count, and 
etc weren't seen once.
Mecha MaIphite2 votesWhen did I say Camille counted? What?
Taric is sitting at slightly over 50% winrate, Ali and Braun are only slightly under. Raka is actually one of the better supports. Just because you don't see them in every LCS game doesn't mean they're unplayable.
Big Lincoln1 votesthey should buff bard