Let opponents see whom Yasuo has already dashed to

BeatzBoyFTW··222 votes·5,794 views

You know that decreasing circle mark that Yasuo players can see if they used their E on already? Let the opponents see it too. Imo, this is one change which I hope that can reduce the frustration of laning against a Yasuo main who has an itchy Fore-Finger.

At least this doesn't nerf down his damage whatsoever, but force Yasuo to take a second thought of whether spamming his dashes everywhere for "intimidation" is a good thing or not.

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Red Wreckage15 votes

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Jet Sett74 votes

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iLBGAMing31 votes

claps

Lit Corn3 votes

pls tell me what was wroten :o

Red Wreckage2 votes

I can post it again but it'll get deleted again :P

nothing too harsh/excessive abusing/death wishes etc. though

Dextix LT2 votes

Basically?

"You all suck, i as a silver master player tell you that this feature would be useless as you all suck and could not use it. Also git gud kids, coz yasuo is not good. I am a master player HURRRRR DURRRRR"

The usual yasuo main nonsense.

Lit Corn3 votes

Wut ? you dont know that all yasuo mains are smurfs and they're better than Faker ? they all deserve challenjour but their mates are holding them back !? , this guy was just telling the truth why did it get deleted .

Red Wreckage2 votes

I don't play mages cause I find their gameplay boring. I do like hitting both parts of viktor's E and Q for mega damage though so I sometimes play him :) and rare brand autofilled support

and I respond with this much negativity towards "Yasuo nerf when OP plz" posts cause regardless of how many nerfs(nerfs is all he gets btw) Yasuo gets, these people can never be pleased.

BeatzBoyFTW27 votes

The nerfs still didn't changed the fact that Yasuo is still one of the most played champion, hence another reason why others like Yorick will never get touched.

All I ask is put a simple circle which helps opponents know where he's already dashed to without even touching his numbers, and you're already throwing a fit about it. You talk about mages being boring to play, but ironically, spamming the dash button from little to absolutely no reason at all like some sort of Naruto fanboy crap is somewhat fine.

Fairyfleur14 votes

But this person didn't just say "yasuo op plz nerf xd"? They put some thought into making him less frustrating

ZyniX7 votes

Yeah imagine what the response would have been otherwise lol.

Infernape5 votes

Mic drop.

Knalxz7 votes

Wait, how is the visual clutter okay for Yasuo to take but not his enemies?

That seems like a bullshit awnser.

Leetri3 votes

Because if they add it for Yasuo they have to add it for everyone else too with individual markers, like J4, Rek'Sai, Udyr and so on. Imagine if someone has been recently attacked by all of those champions, that's gonna be a mess of overlapping indicators. It's not that just Yasuo's indicators are too much, it's that it can easily get out of hand when multiple champions have global indicators.

PinkSalt13 votes

So Nidalee Nidalee gets to mark everyone she lands her e/q on,

Annie Annie gets stun indicators

Jhin Jhin get crit indicators,

Xayah Xayah gets her little feather count

Twitch's Twitch poison symbol shows EVERYONE that they're marked (minions AND CHAMPIONS)

Lux Lux marks EVERYTHING her spells hit,

Darius Darius gets to mark champions (and I think minions? idk.. don't play with him too much to notice) every time they bleed

Diana Diana can mark everyone she hits her Q with (AND MINIONS)

Ryze Ryze can mark anything he lands his spells on (minions and champions)

Vel'koz Velkoz also marks everyone he hits his spells with (AND MINIONS)

AND YET, doing the same with yasuo is too much of a hassle or too problematic.

RIOT EXPLAIN.

XxoRazorBladeoxX3 votes

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So Nidalee Nidalee gets to mark everyone she lands her e/q on,

Annie Annie gets stun indicators

Jhin Jhin get crit indicators,

Xayah Xayah gets her little feather count

Twitch's Twitch poison symbol shows EVERYONE that they're marked (minions AND CHAMPIONS)

Lux Lux marks EVERYTHING her spells hit,

Darius Darius gets to mark champions (and I think minions? idk.. don't play with him too much to notice) every time they bleed

Diana Diana can mark everyone she hits her Q with (AND MINIONS)

Ryze Ryze can mark anything he lands his spells on (minions and champions)

Vel'koz Velkoz also marks everyone he hits his spells with (AND MINIONS)

AND YET, doing the same with yasuo is too much of a hassle or too problematic.

RIOT EXPLAIN.

"The biggest difference is that Yasuo's mark is a "timing visual". You cant compare Yasuo's dash time to other marks champions have, because those marks consist of damage/cc. Besides that, you can also "hear" and see if yasuos steel tempest is ready. It would be more reasonable to only show dash timings on champions only , but showing all of yasuo's dash on every creep,monster etc would just be like looking directly at the yasuo's computer. Instead of showing dashes Riot team could also show enemies if yasuo has one stack of his "q". Theses changes will make a difference in counterplay, but showing cooldowns of yasuo's abilitiy would be way too far from a nerf/change"

So if riot shows cooldown on his "e" then they might as well show the cooldowns on his ultimate, windwall, and "q". Second of all, its considered a "visual problem" because with games like "One for All" its going to get messy on the screen. You also have to consider monsters/ objectives yasuos use their dashes on.

PinkSalt3 votes

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"The biggest difference is that Yasuo's mark is a "timing visual". You cant compare Yasuo's dash time to other marks champions have, because those marks consist of damage/cc.

I literally can because Vel'koz, Ryze, Lux, Diana, Darius (with his ult) and Jhin (with his mark after being hit) ALL have "timing visuals" SO. And BESIDES, Yasuo's "sweeping blade" (his e, the dash) does INCREASING DAMAGE WITH EACH CAST. Looks like you don't even know what the hell you're talking about, telling me I can't compare other peoples mark because they coincide with damage while Yasuo's LITERALLY ALSO COINCIDES WITH DAMAGE.

Besides that, you can also "hear" and see if yasuos steel tempest is ready.

And this isn't about his Q, this entire post and my comment is about his E. Actually read the post before trying to argue.

It would be more reasonable to only show dash timings on champions only

This is EXACTLY what the post is about Einstein, read the damn post.

but showing cooldowns of yasuo's abilitiy would be way too far from a nerf/change"

I can agree with this, showing the decaying circle on every champ is too much, but at least SHOWING the mark (without the time) would be nice. But either way, both Annie and Jhin deal with with this shit? The bars that indicate when the stun/crit will hit.

its considered a "visual problem" because with games like "One for All" its going to get messy on the screen.

One for all with twitch is a thing, kid, and Riot's okay with THAT?

XxoRazorBladeoxX1 votes

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I literally can because Vel'koz, Ryze, Lux, Diana, Darius (with his ult) and Jhin (with his mark after being hit) ALL have "timing visuals" SO. And BESIDES, Yasuo's "sweeping blade" (his e, the dash) does INCREASING DAMAGE WITH EACH CAST. Looks like you don't even know what the hell you're talking about, telling me I can't compare other peoples mark because they coincide with damage while Yasuo's LITERALLY ALSO COINCIDES WITH DAMAGE.

And this isn't about his Q, this entire post and my comment is about his E. Actually read the post before trying to argue.

This is EXACTLY what the post is about Einstein, read the damn post.

I can agree with this, showing the decaying circle on every champ is too much, but at least SHOWING the mark (without the time) would be nice. But either way, both Annie and Jhin deal with with this shit? The bars that indicate when the stun/crit will hit.

One for all with twitch is a thing, kid, and Riot's okay with THAT?

You are overeacting.

  1. You arent even a yasuo main and you barely play top lane tanks or assassins.
  2. I can see that you mostly play mages, adc, and support which are players who hate yasuo the most.
  3. Your point of making the post was to compare marks that other champions have with the mark on yasuo's "e" and you know I have proven your post wrong as a pointless argument. You didnt mention about other marks players can see on yasuo. His passive, his steel tempest. You simply dont want to understand how yasuo's kit works and you are instead blaming his kit.
  4. Yasuo's increased damage from his dash has nothing to do with the timing on his dashes. Infact, his dash damage is nerfed so theres almost no difference in damage. Some people may also only upgrade their "q" more than their "e". Once again, Yasuo's dash damage has nothing to do with the timing on yasuo's dashes. "timing visual" literaly means the duration in which yasuo can dash through the enemy again and you just dont understand the difference im explaining with his marks.
  5. You probably decided to search on the wiki because you dont even play yasuo, so you arent sure if what you are saying is true and you most likely dont understand what im saying about yasuo.
  6. I used to be a one-trick yasuo and you assumed that i dont even know how to play yasuo.

Play yasuo at least once, before saying anything.

PinkSalt1 votes

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You are overeacting.

  1. You arent even a yasuo main and you barely play top lane tanks or assassins.
  2. I can see that you mostly play mages, adc, and support which are players who hate yasuo the most.
  3. Your point of making the post was to compare marks that other champions have with the mark on yasuo's "e" and you know I have proven your post wrong as a pointless argument. You didnt mention about other marks players can see on yasuo. His passive, his steel tempest. You simply dont want to understand how yasuo's kit works and you are instead blaming his kit.
  4. Yasuo's increased damage from his dash has nothing to do with the timing on his dashes. Infact, his dash damage is nerfed so theres almost no difference in damage. Some people may also only upgrade their "q" more than their "e". Once again, Yasuo's dash damage has nothing to do with the timing on yasuo's dashes. "timing visual" literaly means the duration in which yasuo can dash through the enemy again and you just dont understand the difference im explaining with his marks.
  5. You probably decided to search on the wiki because you dont even play yasuo, so you arent sure if what you are saying is true and you most likely dont understand what im saying about yasuo.
  6. I used to be a one-trick yasuo and you assumed that i dont even know how to play yasuo.

Play yasuo at least once, before saying anything.

  1. You're right I'm not a Yasuo main, surpirse? I also don't play top, but Yasuo also goes mid, so your point is? 2.I do mostly play those three roles, and guess what, Yasuo goes mid. Surprise "Yasuo main", can't believe you're a main and don't even know what lanes to play him in.
  2. I did compare the marks of other champions with Yasuo's because, guess what, they're all marks.
  3. I compared your shit excuse for "timing visuals rendering Yasuo too weak" because the champions I compared that to (Annie, jhin, etc) would have worse or the same disadvantage. Like you said, I main mage adc and support so I kind of know shit about the champions I mentioned. I also said that DISPLAYING the actual time would be too much, and that they should only display marks. Pity you can't read and instead want to be hostile. 5.I have friends who play Yasuo, I also lane against Yasuo (because he also goes mid idiot) so no, I didn't have to "wiki it", thanks for trying to insult me I guess?
  4. Congrats.

Maybe don't assume shit before saying anything, also try actually reading before saying anything.

XxoRazorBladeoxX1 votes

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  1. You're right I'm not a Yasuo main, surpirse? I also don't play top, but Yasuo also goes mid, so your point is? 2.I do mostly play those three roles, and guess what, Yasuo goes mid. Surprise "Yasuo main", can't believe you're a main and don't even know what lanes to play him in.
  2. I did compare the marks of other champions with Yasuo's because, guess what, they're all marks.
  3. I compared your shit excuse for "timing visuals rendering Yasuo too weak" because the champions I compared that to (Annie, jhin, etc) would have worse or the same disadvantage. Like you said, I main mage adc and support so I kind of know shit about the champions I mentioned. I also said that DISPLAYING the actual time would be too much, and that they should only display marks. Pity you can't read and instead want to be hostile. 5.I have friends who play Yasuo, I also lane against Yasuo (because he also goes mid idiot) so no, I didn't have to "wiki it", thanks for trying to insult me I guess?
  4. Congrats.

Maybe don't assume shit before saying anything, also try actually reading before saying anything.

-.- You just said that your post was about the "marks" and before you said that it was about his "e". Your original post is pointless and you know I proved it as an invalid argument so you dont have to keep on coming up with more excuses to prove your point. Just stop with the excuses and acknowledge that you never played yasuo before. Theres no reason for you to claim that you can understand yasuo's kit more than me if you simply have not even played him before. I know what you're mentioning about yasuo is obviously wrong because "I play yasuo", but "you dont" so what makes you think that I will agree with.

How many times do I have to say that timing visual is the time indicator in which yasuo can dash through a minion again. You do not understand the difference I make with other champions. The champions you mentioned do not have a similar ability or effect as yasuo so theres no comparison except that they are considered marks. You dont understand my posts because you are refusing to acknowledge or even interpret my posts which is why you keep on coming back and rambling about me. Everything you mentioned about me in your reply is basically what you are actually doing to my posts. All you are doing in these replies are being overly-pessimistic/negative attitude and making up lies/excuses that have nothing to do with what our original argument is about. "We" are the only ones reading this post so theres no one else to lie about me or your post. Players like you will always keep complaining but refuse to be perspective so theres no more reason for me to keep replying back to you.

You are wrong. So stop coming back with excuses and lies to prove you point. Get over it. If you dont you are going to be stuck in the cycle of trash talking the same thing just for other readers to agree with you but no one else is reading this except us so you can just be honest with me. Even if they do read your posts they would read mine and understand the point im trying to make about you. so isnt all of this just a waste of time? You dont have to keep on arguing with me if you know you are wrong deep in your mind. Quote all you want and reply to it because Im not reading it if its the same way you reply to me like in other posts.

PinkSalt1 votes

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-.- You just said that your post was about the "marks" and before you said that it was about his "e". Your original post is pointless and you know I proved it as an invalid argument so you dont have to keep on coming up with more excuses to prove your point. Just stop with the excuses and acknowledge that you never played yasuo before. Theres no reason for you to claim that you can understand yasuo's kit more than me if you simply have not even played him before. I know what you're mentioning about yasuo is obviously wrong because "I play yasuo", but "you dont" so what makes you think that I will agree with.

How many times do I have to say that timing visual is the time indicator in which yasuo can dash through a minion again. You do not understand the difference I make with other champions. The champions you mentioned do not have a similar ability or effect as yasuo so theres no comparison except that they are considered marks. You dont understand my posts because you are refusing to acknowledge or even interpret my posts which is why you keep on coming back and rambling about me. Everything you mentioned about me in your reply is basically what you are actually doing to my posts. All you are doing in these replies are being overly-pessimistic/negative attitude and making up lies/excuses that have nothing to do with what our original argument is about. "We" are the only ones reading this post so theres no one else to lie about me or your post. Players like you will always keep complaining but refuse to be perspective so theres no more reason for me to keep replying back to you.

You are wrong. So stop coming back with excuses and lies to prove you point. Get over it. If you dont you are going to be stuck in the cycle of trash talking the same thing just for other readers to agree with you but no one else is reading this except us so you can just be honest with me. Even if they do read your posts they would read mine and understand the point im trying to make about you. so isnt all of this just a waste of time? You dont have to keep on arguing with me if you know you are wrong deep in your mind. Quote all you want and reply to it because Im not reading it if its the same way you reply to me like in other posts.

lmao you're a lost cause, you can't even read correctly. Going to stop replying to an idiot who refuses to somehow understand words.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

I don't think I'm wrong, I'm partially on your side but you're too damn blind to understand that. Oh well, can't help the naive. Enjoy being angry while I converse with other people who actually understand the English language, and can actually read.

XxoRazorBladeoxX1 votes

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lmao you're a lost cause, you can't even read correctly. Going to stop replying to an idiot who refuses to somehow understand words.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

I don't think I'm wrong, I'm partially on your side but you're too damn blind to understand that. Oh well, can't help the naive. Enjoy being angry while I converse with other people who actually understand the English language, and can actually read.

The truth be told, you are too stubborn and egotistical. we all know and I cant help it. Nothing I can do to convince you because you are not even trying to etc...

Well, all you are doing is just skimming through my replies without interpreting it and then litteraly being hyprocrite repeating whatever I mentioned about you to me, so you can probably make it seem that your argument was always correct whens theres no other reason why you would do that,which i expected you to do again. Its okay to be wrong in life, but you dont like being wrong in forums so now you are fake acting chill about it since you were so negative before and you're acting as if Im an idiotic-player who doesnt know anything on forums. It doesnt matter if a 100 players read our low-elo comments that I debunked and you care about it, because it doesnt change the fact that what we say is low-elo garbage! Whether you do care or not care what others think, you cant keep on getting away with this comment, itll just make it worse.

Your purpose of being on the forums is to troll and get players more frustrated when their ideas dont align with yours and thats what you have basically proven to me in your other comments to other players and by assuming that "I'm angry". Dont lie. Just admit it because other players who you reply to, just are like me in the same situtation. I'm not going to waste any more time now that i know

Or

If you aren’t even trolling on purpose( which I don’t think you are) then you have real problems with English and don’t even understand how constructive critism or even know how to debate properly.For instance, you said that was not the original idea of your post when I mentioned about marks in general. You suddenly wanted to change the idea of your post because I proved yours wrong. Then I clearly stated that you had never played yasuo before, unlike me so you had no clue if what you are comparing with yasuo is even true. However, you couldnt even grasp this simple idea and kept on insisting that I was wrong and that you are correct because “you still played against yasuo.” The point of my statement is that you don’t play yasuo so you don’t have a good reason to disagree with me or in general anyone who has played yasuo at least once. I’m trying to make this simple as possible but you never seem to understand. One second you are like, “that’s not what my posts is about, read English”, another second youare like “ I know more yasuo than you because I read the wiki but have never played him once and I disagree with the rest of the league population who agrees with you.”. Then you are like” I was negative to you in the pasts post and now I’m going to act like I’m chill and i am glad I had made you angry for confusing you” Lol how do you even expect me to reply back to you if you don’t even know how to simply argue with someone reasonably.

Simple summary: you have to experience a books story in life to truely understand it but you cannot understand it by simply reading it. Wiki isn’t even updated. You don’t have faith in people who are trying to help you and you refuse to believe in them. If you understand these you’ll be able to 1v1 yasuo in lane and its really simple. You can choose to be the same and be hardstuck forever or you can learn and make a change!!!

Bobby McRobb7 votes

Don't see how this is necessary!

iLBGAMing4 votes

I said the same thing about the nerf on PBE for Mordekaiser which reveals the shield that he has build up from his passive to enemies.

DuskDaUmbreon7 votes

Well, that's a bit more clarity, and not so much of a thing. Showing a passive shield is already done with...well...every shield. It's just a modernization of it for him.

Yasuo's would be adding more information for everyone else, instead of just making said information a bit easier to see.

iLBGAMing6 votes

YES! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

SiIver Tempest6 votes

As a Yasuo main, I think this would be a decent change. While I don't necessarily think he's overpowered or broken, I do recognize that he is annoying as fuck to play against and quite overbearing at times. Giving his opponents a bit of an indicator of what he can and can't dash through would be pretty useful information. On another note, it's nice to see some threads with actual suggestions for Yasuo changes rather then just "Gut him."

Alex h87216 votes

Eh, in theory i like this thought, but in practice i feel like it might add too much clutter especially for a champ that has an indicator for one of his abilities that pops up on minions. Imagine a yasuo/gnar lane matchup, yas dashes through most of the wave marking gnars minions, gnar Q's yas/minion wave, all the damn minions would have some sort of indicator and I think it could clutter up the screen. Just my thoughts.

GGLineaR1 votes

How often does Gnar even lane against a yas?

Alex h87211 votes

Well considering theyre both fairly popular as toplaners its gonna happen sometimes (when yas isnt banned lol), i've seen the matchup happen toplane several times.

GGLineaR2 votes

Really? I've not seen Gnar in a while.

Not that I miss the little fucker.

Chembaron Yamada5 votes

That kinda isn't a good argument in my opinion.

In said matchup, Yasuo already has to deal with the "clutter", since he can see Gnar's and his own indicators. If Yasuo players can deal with that matchup, I don't know why the opposing side shouldn't be able to as well.

pro rusher 23 votes

Argument is kind of bad xD. But the point is that yasuo got nerfed a lot in s7 and "reworked" champions like urgot got some nicee buffs.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

It's not about nerfing, just clarity. Kinda frustrating if Yasuo is dashing all over the place so I can barely keep up, then when I think he used all minions and want to all in and kill him it turns out that there was still a minion open for him to dash through and escape.

I would like to be able to tell of what he is able to do and what not. If that has to come with compensation buffs, so be it. But I would like to have tools to plan my approach properly against a champion with that amount of in fight mobility.

Salson5 votes

Not a bad idea, this wouldn't actually affect him in high elo, but should help low elo deal with him.

+1

RavenHusky5 votes

How about we just remove him from the game? That way, I can start banning other champions.

JustMonika134 votes

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How about we just remove him from the game? That way, I can start banning other champions.

Have fun dealing with Twitch, Trist, and Janna.

RavenHusky2 votes

That's bot lane's problem, not my problem as a mid laner. Remove Yasuo, and I start banning Fizz, Zed, and other mid lane assassins.

pro rusher 26 votes

You cry about yasuo, becouse you are 1 trick lux (800+ games on lux in ranked this season), and you are too lazy to learn to play against him, play passive and poke him down. I agree. It is hard to watch 10 min long video. The better idea is to cry about how op he is in boards. That will help you with your problem..

Dream High2 votes

Yasuo cucks Lux completely, its ban him or get a miserable lane woth very little room to make an impact. Lux has many problems that's why she's at a 46 percent win rate

pro rusher 21 votes

Wtf are u even talking about? She has 51% win rate, and 49.8 against yasuo according to op.gg in high elos

Dream High2 votes

I don't know what you're talking about. Op.gg version 7.20 Winrate mid is 47.11% Against Yasuo in the counters section 45.05

You go to op.gg click on lux and it's all there for you

JustMonika135 votes

As a Yasuo main, this idea isn’t bad, even if it’s not original (people have asked for it before).

A suggestion: instead of giving the enemy Yasuo’s timer indicator, which I argue should be just for him, make the targets Yasuo has dashed through have some sort of static mark that demonstrates that Yasuo has dashed through them, but not give them the time until the mark disappears.

L2D tyler15 votes

whom'st'd've'nt**

50000000000000003 votes

To whomd'st hath Yasuo dashed?

NCBuckets2 votes

im a yas main and as someone who should be opposed to this, I love this idea. i vote yesss.

Junkο2 votes

I think having the circle would be too much visual clutter. Especially since some champions use the same/similar circle for their own abilities like Naut, Udyr, pretty sure Ekko, etc.

Would be nice if they added a different kind of detail though, but not sure what.

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