Unpopular opinion:

woobee··5 votes·721 views

If we don't need marksmen in bot lane every game, Then we don't need real supports in bot lane every game.

So many people in the comments declare that we need supports, but dare to speak out against mages like Brand or Annie or Malzahar in the bot lane as "not real supports"

11 Comments

CancerBasedGod1 votes

That opinion is not just unpopular, it is born of abject ignorance.

The only reason you might go without a support in bot is if you had Ivern or Bard as roaming support.

l Dárius l1 votes

your right, we use xp and gold reliant champions so they can do worse than supports

Zezockary1 votes

You don't need a real support, but you do need someone who can protect the other person bottom lane so that they can have an increased income and use that income on getting expensive items quickly so that they can provide a high amount of damage late game.

Cocho1 votes

I don't play ADC as much as I used to, but it just seems like whatever I'm against, its just torture if I'm not a relatively meta AD carry. Thresh Zyra Karma BlitzcrankBrand MalzaharJhin VarusJanna Nami Lulu

Feelsbad when you gotta play an ADC with 1000+ range because every other person in the game one shots you lol

Daklore1 votes

Brand, Annie, and Malzahar aren't "real" supports.

As an ADC, I will tell you why I have this opinion. They're death machines. Now, don't think this as me wanting to enforce the meta, no. I'm fine with off-meta picks as long as they are actually playing the role, not just "oh hey, I'm support, but I'm going to farm and play like a mid-laner instead" So yes, I have a problem with the examples of supports going counter-jungling without the team being on board. But that's another bucket of kittens.

As for those three in bot lane, there's this problem in botlane right now where you're either being completely oppressed and unable to do something--because of all the easy and quick CC available to these champions, as well as the high initial damage and scaling on top of that--or you're fighting the "support" for CS because they don't understand wave management and just throw out their abilities willy-nily.

Let's also face the fact that these control and burst mages that are visiting botlane are starting to push out traditional supports. Why play Janna when you can just scare the other team away by burning their health away with Brand? Why bring Lulu when you can just drop Tibbers and erase 1/2 of their health instantly? That's the problem, in this scenario.

woobee1 votes

My point is that people are so quick to dismiss botlane mages as something to be removed, but only when they replace the supports. When Ziggs did well botlane people welcomed it as a new meta.

Stars Shaper1 votes

Then were do you want pure supports to play?

Top Taric/Braum is just offering the enemy a free farm lane and FB tower. Any midlane Soraka/Nami/Sona(?)/Janna is going to be a massacre.

woobee1 votes

Maybe "pure supports" don't need to be in every single game. That's my point.

Stars Shaper1 votes

Than that's discrimination pure and simple.

Mages as well as assassins, marksmen and fighters will always have a spot, why should supports being the only1 not needed?

woobee1 votes

I never said they were the only ones not needed. If anything, the popular opinion is that none of the specific types are absolutely needed, EXCEPT SUPPORT. I honestly have no idea what you're trying to argue here.

SKT T1 Rogue1 votes

I would like to see a support that gives "healing over time" heals. rather than hard hit heals

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