7 games in a row my bot lane has lost lane hard

JayceAccount43·12/27/2019, 9:53:16 AM·4 votes·2,853 views

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Look at this shit. Past 7 games my bot lane has literally had 10+ deaths total within 10-15 minutes. Only 2 out of 7 of the games i was able to carry these morons only because I was insanely fed, and i was still barely able to carry them. This is literally impossible to play top lane when bot lane is costing the game 99% of the time. Im a D1 Jayce otp and cant even carry in fucking plat elo because this lane has 0 impact on the game unless youre facing a literal bronze boosted autofilled top laner and go 20/0 in 20 minutes. Im done trying to play top lane in anything below D2. It feels like every lane is determined by bot lane. Such a joke of a game.

10 Comments

Z3SIeeper12/27/2019, 10:21:43 AM4 votes

Meanwhile the hivemind opinion here is that top and mid are the only lanes that matter.

Illabethe12/27/2019, 11:29:47 AM2 votes

Top has plenty of impact in Plat.... If you are playing something that isn't an adc knockoff and breeding in general team weakness, limiting your team's CC, tankiness, etc.

You need champs like Garen/Riven etc to be able to carry top once you can't rely on other teams.

Washed up at 2012/27/2019, 12:32:45 PM2 votes

I can't carry when my team feeds either, as ADC.

If two players are feeding, you can't really counteract that as a solo player. They're just not bulky enough, don't deal enough damage, and just get rolled over by stronger opponents

Ultimately, Riot would have to give less item stats across the board or less kill gold so that players can't snowball as hard. This is so that you're relatively less far ahead of someone simply going even if you get fed

But then people would say "Oh the 0 kill yasuo is fighting the 11 0 Renekton, that's not right!"

I play bot lane because I hate it when bot lane feeds

mark602812/27/2019, 1:57:11 PM2 votes

Plat is unfucking playable right now. Playing bruisers from toplane is nigh impossible to carry a game and i include jayce for the sake of him scaling as trash as every bruiser just with cheaper items. Even with camille i had a full dmg berserker draven just standing in front of me auto attacking me to death with tabis, trinity, ravenous, GA. And he went fuckin lethality+stormrazor. Used to get to d3 with a 75-80% WR on camille and then dropping off to 60 until i reached my elo. That changed when toplane and bruisers got nerfed to shit, riot made their season 9 oopsy where literally everytime someone runs it down or straight up griefs is some five years gold 5 player who is now plat 2 on 47% wr, doesnt drop. ints every game and is frustrated cuz he doesnt belong there. Season 9, season of improvement btw, we want people to feel good btw, competitive esport btw. Let's just boost all our players up minimum an entire fuckin tier deflating the value of all higher ranks as a result and leading to absolute trash game quality.

But the moment i play vlad or ryze from midlane i shitstomp every game it's fuckin pathetic how easy mode it is to play a mage from midlane while toplane has no impact simply because what u do doesn't matter in the literal sense. You can be 5/0, get all plates+fb turret, then tp bot, get double, another tower. Five minutes later the adc stands in front of you and autos you to death. Let alone a mage who hits a stray skillshot and oneshots you.

But midlane also isn't all gold and shiny i had games there too where i am somehow focused by the enemy jungle AND support, can't leave lane while my botlane is 0/19 at their second turret with my jungler sitting down there somehow and then the game is just over. Making the game only about botlane again was the biggest mistake ever. Season 8 half way through was such a nice change and breath of fresh air to actually be able to carry from other roles by CARRYING. Now we are back to "sit bot and make your trash ass botlaners not feed or lose the game". Has nothing to do with carrying but forcing every other role into a second and third jungler for botlane making the game extremely unfun and exhausting to play because every game you go in with the only gameplan being anxiety and "hope RNGesus didn't flip me the int bot coin or i'm in for a hell of a ride". Literally every game you go in all you think about is what you can do to help bot, i have to shitstomp my lane or we can ff it's so pathetic. And the games where your botlane wins are equally shit where u just sit there be like 0/2/2 or something aaand you won and got LP. Wow thanks riot, i had a lot of fun and impact in this game.

Chally duo botlanes stomping with like 80% WR IN CHALLENGER should have shown something to riot but as always they went on and buffed adc even more. Fire.them. all.

Thefrostyviking12/27/2019, 2:37:05 PM1 votes

I mean....rather than toplane being unable to impact the game, the actual truth is that whichever lane gets the most fed while dumpstering their laner the most will have the greatest impact-

And this is prone to happening botlane the most, both between the 4 people down there trading shots, 2 junglers looking for kills to have a firm hold on dragon and later on the 2 midlaners also looking to one-up eachother.

But if botlane on some off chance remains balanced because neither side can get an advantage while also managing to avoid jungler ganks then they are equally at the mercy of a fed midlane/toplane/jungle as the rest are when botlane gets fed.

After all, even Aatrox can easily run down a Caitlyn when he goes 4,1,0 to her 1.0,1 or so and he is perhaps one of the weakest even when snowballing

Take a 4.1.1 Irelia instead and that botlaner will be scared to ever leave their towers..-.....rare at is is for an Irelia to actually win lane on her own and gets so fed as it is though.

Midlane? Fed Syndra Diana or Orianna means the botlane need like 50 MR at the very least to not explode from being sneezed at.

Jungle? Ekko Elise Olaf can all also give any botlaners a serious trauma pretty easily.

So yeah......botlane is important sure, but the ones who have the most impact are the ones who are the most fed....botlane just happens to be a easier place to stage a snowball for themselves, the jungler and the midlaners because there are 2 potential victims here.

2 kills are better than 1 when looking to snowball.

Sir Saltarin12/27/2019, 2:46:34 PM1 votes

Good riddance