fuck mobility creep

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It's just dumb how a champion with mobility to engage on you at any time is also terrific at dueling you when they get there, are the main culprits. Champs like are fair because he'll kick your ass but he can't always get you, those champs can kick your ass and can almost always get you. They need to treat hyper mobility like stealth, I like how , as annoying as they are, aren't that good in an even fair 1 v 1 because they have the tools to make sure they never end up in one.

These mobility champs should be treated the same way, fine they can engage on you at any time, but they need to have to choose a favorable time to do so, or pay for it. If not, then they need to lose some of their mobility, you can't have it both ways.

Well there is counterplay to Irelia and Yasuo for the most part. They need enemy targets to actually get the mobility. Unlike Who E's or R's away whenever he feels like it.

I agree with this. When a champion has the tools to easily engage their targets, they should compensate for this by giving their opponents more time and opportunities to outplay them from combat range. Instead, not only has this not been implemented in these champions' designs, but their current level of damage gets bursty far too easily. As such, it doesn't at all feel like mobile champions pay any sort of cost for their increased target access. As you mentioned, mobile champions should be more opportunistic, as they can engage at any time, and should have a genuine reason not to just go ham every time. As it stands, however, most mobile champions can not only engage at will, but can frequently outduel anyone else as well from any amount of health, which has contributed to a meta in which most mobile champions just make a beeline for their target and stat-check them to death.

On top of that, immobile champions have typically been balanced relative to mobile champions by just having bigger numbers, rather than access to some unique mechanics others can't have. Unstoppability, for example, is a mechanic I think deserves to be seen much more often on juggernauts, yet so far the champions who most frequently have it are divers, usually on their dash ults. This too makes balance more difficult, because no amount of raw damage or durability can compensate for being hard-countered by the sheer amount of CC and kiting in the game right now. We need to get to a place where there is a clear tradeoff for features like mobility, range, CC, high damage, and so on, and where there is a visible difference between champions who either have or lack those effects, one where a champion can be lacking in several of these strengths and still have unique advantages that make them worth picking.

Evelynn together with shaco? Are you for real now? I completely understand shaco but evelynn? Her only escape tool is bound with her ulti and unlike ekko's she needs it if she wants to assassinate someone.

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It's just dumb how a champion with mobility to engage on you at any time is also terrific at dueling you when they get there, are the main culprits. Champs like are fair because he'll kick your ass but he can't always get you, those champs can kick your ass and can almost always get you. They need to treat hyper mobility like stealth, I like how , as annoying as they are, aren't that good in an even fair 1 v 1 because they have the tools to make sure they never end up in one.

These mobility champs should be treated the same way, fine they can engage on you at any time, but they need to have to choose a favorable time to do so, or pay for it. If not, then they need to lose some of their mobility, you can't have it both ways.

That's my biggest issue

You shouldn't give a champion the ability to reach a target and then also the ability to out-duel them

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Every champ released in a while has either had at least 2 forms of mobility/escape, or a form of hard CC. In some cases, some had both.

I think Illaoi is the only exception.

I hate that the last two supports we've gotten have had two forms of mobility (that's really fast) AND two forms of hard cc.

THIS

What? Singed has unique gameplay and quite fun to play. On the other hand some new champions are impossible to tell apart from the old ones. NOW THATS fucking fun. And even if you manage to tell apart this guy and that guy that has absolutely same kit, they still gonne build same shit, run same runes and play in the same fucking fashion as 15 other champions in their class. Absolutely funniest.

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