Riots balance team

Ranmaru·Feb 18, 2018·47 votes·2,648 views

Well we gave gp his time to shine for a month TO THE DUMPSTER WITH HIM!

Kogmaw: OH WHAT! KOGMAWS WINRATE DROPPED FROM 55% TO A 50% IN A PATCH! COME ON DUDES GET THE PARAMEDICS HE NEEDS A BANDAID

36 Comments

TehNACHOFeb 18, 201826 votes

47%

He went from what looks like 53% to just below 47%, and the bandaid they gave him is about half of what they nerfed him for, which may put him at 50%.

There are a LOT of things to criticize the balance team for but this is not one of them.

Death by GlamourFeb 18, 20187 votes

He should be at sub 50% winrate

Hes a late game hyper carry in an early game snowball meta

Pika FoxFeb 18, 20183 votes

"meta" isnt all encompassing. Meta is just what people think is hip and cool and in, generally not what is actually good. Different servers all have different metas, all of which are viable.

Sun Wu RyuumokuFeb 18, 20181 votes

no, meta means whats better atm (and not hidden).

Pika FoxFeb 18, 20181 votes

I guess everything is better atm because everything is viable since all regions have different metas.

SlythionFeb 18, 20185 votes

you can't just throw out buzzwords without understanding why dude, that's an awful argument.

Your "early game snowball meta" is a thing because scaling is incredibly fast in the game right now, the exact type of situation you would expect champions like...say idk...Kog'maw, Vayne, and Tristana to excel in with Lucian and Caitlyn doing poorly in.

Sp33d Zer0Feb 18, 20182 votes

Again, he has not been a late game hyper carry for OVER TWO SEASONS!

His winrate is at its worst in the late game. He is a mid game adc.

This isn't season 2 anymore.

NorthernRedStarFeb 19, 20182 votes

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He should be at sub 50% winrate

Hes a late game hyper carry in an early game snowball meta

GP spikes mid game and gets outscaled by nearly everyone late game.

RanmaruFeb 19, 20182 votes

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GP spikes mid game and gets outscaled by nearly everyone late game.

no end game his barrels crit for lots of damage because of his armor pen on them

Tails9016Feb 19, 20181 votes

no end game his barrels crit and oneshot because of his armor pen on them

FTFY

NorthernRedStarFeb 19, 20181 votes

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no end game his barrels crit for lots of damage because of his armor pen on them

So enemy front line just casually lets you walk up, their ADC just randomly allows you to set AND proc your barrels? Interesting.

RainbowIceeFeb 18, 20181 votes

this can be questioned though, it might be due to popularity that his winrate dropped to 47% the dedicated players would bring it up if the bad/freelo ones stop playing him

TehNACHOFeb 18, 20181 votes

What? No this site lists playrate too. Dropped like a rock.

CatastrophicFeb 18, 20187 votes

But GP takes no skill :V

BlåbæretFeb 18, 20183 votes

He really doesn't.

Fully ErectusFeb 19, 20181 votes

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But GP takes no skill :V

As a GP player, yes he doesn't take skill anymore, you just press Q all the time and W with mana flow band. Last season it felt skillful to get out of lane as GP and terrorize the rift, now it feels like a matter of time where you get free pass to do whatever you want.

RanmaruFeb 19, 20181 votes

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But GP takes no skill :V

It takes lots of skill to end game carefully set up your barrels and land them

CatastrophicFeb 19, 20181 votes

I'm being sarcastic, I'm a GP onetrick

Ok sure but whyFeb 18, 20186 votes

I can understand Riot's logic, though!

Kog'Maw has a Hextech-exclusive skin and GP doesn't :^)

cecakaweeFeb 18, 20186 votes

The first thing to do for the balance team is to fix top lane and nerf Zoe

Denims Wrath666Feb 19, 20181 votes

that bitch still one shots basically. yeah, you can dodge her a bit, but one other cc from any other person and you're dead. its worse than old nid.

SohleksFeb 18, 20184 votes

What I'm not big about the GP changes is by nerfing the barrel life at all ranks they are nerfing smart preparation of making traps and such.

Nerf it low ranks for lane sure but let it scale back up?

AirKingNeoFeb 18, 201810 votes

Raising barrel duration at later levels is meaningless. He wants the barrel duration for laning phase. Anything after is meaningless.

CatastrophicFeb 18, 20181 votes

I wouldn't say meaningless, but less important, yes

AhristocatsFeb 18, 20183 votes

no it isn't gp needs the huge barrel lifetime in mid to late to use them as an area denial ability

AirKingNeoFeb 18, 20187 votes

mid to late when they get auto attacked to death? Disagree that changing from 60 to 25 hurts that.

Laning when he "SITS ON THAT BARREL" it effects.

AhristocatsFeb 18, 20182 votes

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mid to late when they get auto attacked to death?

that's why you don't make it 20 sec cd in late game because people won't care about taking risk to destroy his barrels anymore

GP is already shit in late game, holding a worse win rate than Darius because he's way more unreliable than him in late he doesn't need to get his barrels taking a hit later in the game

Sp33d Zer0Feb 18, 20182 votes

They aren't nerfing it for "smart preparation", they're nerfing it because GP's plop a barrel under themselves and can't be pushed on for a good 40 seconds at a time.

ƒrostγFeb 18, 20184 votes

The gp nerfs will only affect those who are abusing him because of klepto, no idea how to use his barrels correctly and using only Q the whole game.

SõnaFeb 18, 20184 votes

don't be mean, Riot is balancing the game well Khazix item 3147

Harden StepbackFeb 18, 20184 votes

they both need to be dumpstered

Sp33d Zer0Feb 18, 20184 votes

GP has been THE top tier top laner since pre season. That's a lot more than a month.

T4underboltFeb 18, 20182 votes

First of all. Those changes doesn't dumpster him at all. They are a mere love taps at best. GP will keep forcing you out of lane as late game hard scaling hypercarry while standing on a barrel and Qing over and over. He needs his Q reverted to old state where he had mana refund on using Q to kill creeps and keep Q on 60 mana cost each level or even 70 instead of giving him back cheap 40 mana at rank 5.

While I agree Riot is full of sht with their favoritism for ADCs and once kog finally got a bit weaker they want to bring him back up, GP needs more nerfs than that.

WubbaLubbaDubDabFeb 18, 20181 votes

now time to nerf brand.everyone abuses him all of a sudden.

MuffledGarbageFeb 18, 20181 votes

Quick, leave league of legends with me!!!

Riot has shown that they don't want to actually fix the game, this leaves us with one option left because Riot has also shown they aren't willing to listen to the boards.

The one option left is for us all to leave league!!