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Seriously what's going on this season?

fluxanna··20 votes·1,796 views

Just look at Champion.gg

You almost never see people with winrates like these topping each role. Except for Volibear, a lot of these champions coincidentally happen to be reworked champions.

Seriously is going on? The game is so incredibly snowball-focused. The first few kills early translate into incredible snowballs in many games and more than ever in season 6, OP picks are just outright OP.

I tried malzahar for the first time recently.... I will sarcastically quote riot when they said "We're happy with how Malzahar is now a healthy and fair champion".

It's not just me, right? I feel this game is just incredibly clunky now. The stupid part is that in some games, despite the fact that you're going to lose, the post 6.9 environment still allows you to hold onto the game, just wasting your time.

Honestly not really understanding what is going on in the post 6.9 world. I mean what are these winrates for instance? For instance how does Riot go around saying they're happy with Malzahar when first-time malzahar players start out kicking at a 53% WR?

Curious if others share the opinion that the post 6.9 world is honestly a huge mistake.

Just look at the champ bans in LCS... lots of people who were basically pick-or-ban were all early game focused, and for what I know, I don't think LCS games have been so pick-or-ban, EVER. But do tell me if I'm wrong. You would expect that at the LCS level people do what works for their strategies, and that certain champions and not skill are what really carry teams.

29 Comments

Troll for Trump7 votes

You'll notice on champion.gg Leblanc has the highest play rate, at 13%

Guess what she's supposed to do?

Hypersnowball on kills, be oppressive early, burst down squishies(ADCs) or be useless lategame.

Lady Hammerlock1 votes

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You'll notice on champion.gg Leblanc has the highest play rate, at 13%

Guess what she's supposed to do?

Hypersnowball on kills, be oppressive early, burst down squishies(ADCs) or be useless lategame.

Are you referencing mid lane? because lucian has the highest play rate

Troll for Trump1 votes

yeah, mid lane.

spombjop1 votes

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You'll notice on champion.gg Leblanc has the highest play rate, at 13%

Guess what she's supposed to do?

Hypersnowball on kills, be oppressive early, burst down squishies(ADCs) or be useless lategame.

Or maybe u should just learn how to last hit and be useful in any part of the game?

Troll for Trump2 votes

LB as a champ falls off lategame unless she's fed. She's bad at waveclearing, and roams a lot more than waveclear. And should be. Just the way it is.

YumaS2Astral3 votes

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LB as a champ falls off lategame unless she's fed. She's bad at waveclearing, and roams a lot more than waveclear. And should be. Just the way it is.

She is not bad at waveclearing. However, she must waste her escape and mobility to waveclear.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Not just her escape and mobility, but large chunk of her damage, especially if you use an enhanced W.

Also it's really hard to kill super minions

SiG DxD1 votes

i like how she can hit 1600 in 0.2 with any version of R esp empowred Q so much lebalanced.

Troll for Trump1 votes

She has to combo by damaging the target with another ability to "double the dmg" and do all her burst.

So yeah, R+Q, Q, EW in no specific order, with ignite thrown in there somewhere

Lirik3 votes

season 6 you meant pre-season all season long there is no season 6 yet i am still waiting on season 6 to roll out.

MISTAFUNKTASTIC3 votes

Skill is always more important than champions for the vast majority of players. I'm only G5 so I have no experience with high elo playing experience. I think in low gold and below, skill and familiarity with a champion are the most important factors to success. I can see your argument at higher skill levels where kits become more of a factor.

Dr. Mundo is supposed to be trash with 47% WR. Mine is 62%.......

It Hertz When IP1 votes

I can assure you, at Bronze-Low Silver some champions are still pure cancer provided the player has at least a few working brain cells left.

ThePartyLeader2 votes

Seems pretty similar to the other 5 seasons.

Orangesilk2 votes

Alright, let's do this. I'm using champion.gg statistics.

You say "The game is so incredibly snowball focused".

Toplane chamions by winrate: Cassiopeia MonkeyKing Kayle None of these are snowball champs (Hell, Cass and Kayle are pure lategame DPS).

Jungle champions by winrate: Volibear Malzahar Amumu I'll grant you, Volibear is there due to how hard he snowballs, but neither Amumu nor Malza are great early-game snowball junglers, I mean, Malz literally has no CC pre-6.

Mid champions by winrate: Malzahar Swain Karthus Once more, Swain and Malza are a bit more early game focused, big bullies, but what is Karthus doing there? In a game entirely about snowballing Karthus should be awful.

ADC champions by winrate: Ashe MissFortune Sivir Two of these are literally utility picks, Ashe and Sivir have subpar DPS and regular laning, but a great utility ult, it doesn't seem fitting for snowballing though, you'd see more Quinn, Cait or Draven if it was the case.

Support champions by winrate: Zyra Blitzcrank Janna Aside from Blitz, the guy has ALWAYS had a fantastic winrate. There is no hard engage here, no forcing fights, no snowballing off a won lane, these are attrition supports.

Your source contradicts your argument brah.

BluePolarizer1 votes

Both Ashe and MF are actually lane bullies. Ashe can poke at long range and you cannot escape her if you are immobile while we all know about MF.

Orangesilk1 votes

See, that's funny because if you look at the champion.gg section that reads "winrate by gamelength" you'll notice both in Ashes and Sivir case that their winrate starts off low and rises up as the game gets longer, this means that their early game and laning is mediocre but their lategame teamfighting is better.

I'm sure I've felt at some point bullied by Ashe and Sivir too, but I'd like to refrain from anecdotical stuff and stick to cold, hard numbers.

BluePolarizer1 votes

You'd also see that Ashe falls off hard late game and is more of a mid-game power spike champ with a decent early if you actually looked at the graph. I also did not dispute that Sivir is a scaling champ.

Jetjoe1 votes

yeah , to summarize what you said, this game has gone to shit. and it has. I get extremly bored of it now too with the way it works. Someone gets fed, just destroys everyone who comes in his way. GG. I was lagging like hell today and a couple others were too but one of our team mates was so OP, he went like 21/2 that they surrendered. even though the rest of us were like 0/4.

the mages are all ridiculous now, malzahar, (honestly dont find him to be the worst mage tho), annie, brand, vlad. Then all the item nerfs and buffs. i played a few games today because my girlfriend wanted me to but other days I go to champion select and find staring at a wall more interesting.

SirSmokeysAlot1 votes

Lol. Mages too op. At least we have Mages being played in the mid lane now. At least it's not corkie every game. At least mid lane has some diversity and it's not all ad champs. Seriously everyone was bitching about how Ap wasn't viable. Now it is and people are bitching about it.

People always find something to complain about. It's how your type of people work.

Jetjoe1 votes

Lets just say this, on another account, I carried as heimer dinger, multiple times, with a good amount of gold, cs, kills. When bot lane sucked and JG sucked, top and I were the only decent ones.

In other games ive seen a fiddle stick or brand on the enemy team get so fricken fed that they were unstoppable.

One silly thing I do have to say though is, if the rest of the team sucks, just avoid the super fed guy. Its pretty annoying at lower elos when people just keep trying to kill this guy again and again. Its like yeah it gives u 300-400 gold to shut him down but is that worth feeding him 3-5 attempts just to kill him?

Dont say MY type of people. Im not a silver 4 low elo like you.

It Hertz When IP1 votes

I saw Vlad appear after his rework for a few games I was in, get shit on in every game, and now I don't see him outside ARAM. I don't think the rework was kind to him.

Jetjoe1 votes

This game is largely dependent on ELO and how stupid your opponent is. HE is alot stronger in lower elo because people dont realize that once he uses all of his abilities you can go HAM on him.

Seenan1 votes

I kinda find it silly that a kill (only 300 gold/a few waves?) can snowball some champs hard, tbh.

Kingnewgameplus1 votes

What happens is that champ A gets a kill, 300 gold good for them. But then champ A pushes the wave and makes them miss cs. So not only does champ A get an exp and gold advantage, champ B actually loses gold and exp because the wave crashes into the turret. So champ A gets ahead and champ B gets behind, which makes repeating this process easier and easier, then suddenly whoopsie Riven 9193347892480182713083e/0/3 while Gangplank is just a less effective melee minion.

BluePolarizer1 votes

It's not only the kill gold. It's denying that gold to the opponent, denying cs, denying experience (which is why you often have Riven at level 6 while her opponent is at level 4 during a snowball), denying vision, everything.

Cucked Virjhïn1 votes

I end up fed in first time on champions too. As an old malzahar main, his rework made him less "op" hes rarely played now due to the fact that you know need to use e-w-r for a kill compared to e-r on the old version. Quit your bitching hes easy champion to play also you were prons against bad players. If you got kills from roams they were bad as malzahar is suppose to roam

Jalkan1 votes

55% is common for OP champions, not sure what you're talking about.

MISTAFUNKTASTIC1 votes

Skill is always more important than champions for the vast majority of players. I'm only G5 so I have no experience with high elo playing experience. I think in low gold and below, skill and familiarity with a champion are the most important factors to success. I can see your argument at higher skill levels where kits become more of a factor.

Dr. Mundo is supposed to be trash with 47% WR. Mine is 62%.......

CoffeeDave1 votes

I have a hypothesis: Riot is placing a bunch of changes into the game that doesn't fit LoL becuase it isn't for LoL. These changes are for Leaguenof Legends 2. They just don't want us to download a Giga-patch for it. Once League of Legends 2 is out, all of these changes will make sense and everything will be okay again.

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