Why Is Riot Nerfing Aurelion Sol Out of the Blue?

9L9L9L9L9L9L9L··3 votes·5,900 views

Why are they nerfing a pretty underpowered champion to the ground, I don't get it.

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RiotMeddler20 votes

Because we believe he's overpowered and that that will be an issue we need to act on before patch 6.8. We're nerfing him in 6.7 as a result, because we feel he'll be a clear issue soon even if that's not widely visible yet.

Faith Breaker2 votes

So all these years he's been in developement you still release him over powered. You're so good at your job Meddler, you deserve a pat on the back.

Profirix8 votes

Unnecessary.

LegacyDAP8 votes

For the record he wasn't in development for all these years. This isn't Ao Shin.

DOES ANYBODY UNDERSTAND THIS? IT'S NOT AO SHIN PEOPLE. PUT AWAY THE PITCH FORKS!

Faith Breaker1 votes

It is what he turned into. Your remark is invalid.

Rain NT4 votes

The whole kit was revamp, and they took a hiatus from Ao Shin cause they were stumped while making him.

Matezoide1 votes

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So all these years he's been in developement you still release him over powered. You're so good at your job Meddler, you deserve a pat on the back.

> Years

???

Sythriel Draken1 votes

in other words new mage items in 6.8 aka the mage rework

Zane Zephyr1 votes

Uh...Middle of april isn't mid year...it's not until June or July

Sightless662 votes

No, they just think people are going to learn how to play him as well as the top-level Aurelion Sol players right now, and then he'll be broken. No way we're getting the mage update in 6.8.

Privileged Jew3 votes

{quoted}

Because we believe he's overpowered and that that will be an issue we need to act on before patch 6.8. We're nerfing him in 6.7 as a result, because we feel he'll be a clear issue soon even if that's not widely visible yet.

Something to do with new AP itemization in the upcoming mage update?

qetzel2 votes

Probably something to do with learning curves. I doubt he is Azir level, but he looks pretty difficult to pick up to me.

Best KhaZix Void6 votes

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Because we believe he's overpowered and that that will be an issue we need to act on before patch 6.8. We're nerfing him in 6.7 as a result, because we feel he'll be a clear issue soon even if that's not widely visible yet.

excuse my bluntness, but why the FUCK wasn't this done with fiora, Graves, Soraka, Tahm Kench, or countless other soloqueue terrors that are or had been running rampant across league the past 6 months?

DropFill4 votes

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excuse my bluntness, but why the FUCK wasn't this done with fiora, Graves, Soraka, Tahm Kench, or countless other soloqueue terrors that are or had been running rampant across league the past 6 months?

Because they are all AD or supports. And riot only nerf mages

Best KhaZix Void1 votes

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Because they are all AD or supports. And riot only nerf mages

Lux.

DropFill2 votes

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Lux.

Lux got her shield nerfed. Her damage is not a problem, and she is very mata gated early on.

Best KhaZix Void1 votes

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Lux got her shield nerfed. Her damage is not a problem, and she is very mata gated early on.

nice strawman.

Faith Breaker1 votes

Because they are Riot fanboys

lunien2 votes

It was done with all of them (even Graves). Try looking in the patch notes a bit more.

Best KhaZix Void5 votes

{quoted}

It was done with all of them (even Graves). Try looking in the patch notes a bit more.

instant reactionary nerfs before people even know whats up with them? yeah, never fuckin happened. they remained broken pieces of shit for literally months.

lunien1 votes

I didn't say instant. I was frustrated too. But relax, dude. I don't think trying to make a Rioter mad at you is going to help.

hopeful411 votes

I dont want to sound snarky but i find it a bit ironic that you were so fast with Aurelion when Lucian dominates soloQ and pro play since day 1 of the preseason and you dont seem to bother much (except if you believe that the 200 range nerf to his ulti was actually meaningful)

Faith Breaker3 votes

It's ok, if anyone took Riot's idea of balance seriously anyway they'd not say anything about it and just calmly play another game

Virgin Ray2 votes

cough cough Blade and Soul

LF Annie1 votes

idk, b@s isnt that great >.> i'm thinking of going and buying a gameboy... {whatever they call them these days} just to have something better than league to do all the time. #pokemon

Michael Sykes1 votes

Meanwhile Kog'maw is close to a 56% winrate...

lunien1 votes

There's a difference between champions being owerpowered and champions being popular. Also, Riot is preparing for Playoffs, so they might not ignore non-challenger/pro people that want someone buffed or nerfed, they might just have a hard time integrating it to fit the balancing at Playoffs.

Affinity23 votes

{quoted}

Because we believe he's overpowered and that that will be an issue we need to act on before patch 6.8. We're nerfing him in 6.7 as a result, because we feel he'll be a clear issue soon even if that's not widely visible yet.

Ayyyye meddler got a backbone and finally started telling people they are wrong about shit. Also with annie too. Good stuff keep it up. We need more of this

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

So much more.

Ichabod Kong1 votes

{quoted}

Because we believe he's overpowered and that that will be an issue we need to act on before patch 6.8. We're nerfing him in 6.7 as a result, because we feel he'll be a clear issue soon even if that's not widely visible yet.

What he means is that he wants Taric post rework to be able to beat him. Obviously.

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

hmmm... what's his secret OP build that you are targeting... i wonder...

Sintama1 votes

There are so many things that are a clear issue that are willfully ignored.

Profirix2 votes

Hes not really underpowered, he just has very large weaknesses that can be exploited. He actually is quite potent when not hard countered.

Boulderox2 votes

to be fair Jhin is pretty fucking powerful as is.... and thats after a month of him being around the rift and people find how strong he is... Aurelion is a straight forward champ to be honest, which lowers the skill and makes him fairly strong for some effort. His passive and w being really the only odd thing but 1 spell to test with... Q E and R are straightforward and not difficult compared to a lot of champs, and I LIKE THIS. A small new mechanic and existing things instead of every ability trying to do something new... Kindred Bard cough.

lunien1 votes

I personally love new mechanics, though sometimes they might not turn out the best (Skarner), at least it tells us, that Riot might be trying to renew the game.

Boulderox2 votes

I am fine with it as long as it doesn't interfere with the game itself. Bard is fine, but he should be getting chimes to maximize his usefulness, Skarner game you kinda need them to be effective in areas...Kindred double edged sword passive... it makes you forced to play one way or be meh.... why pick Skarner when Vi can do most of what he does, same snowballing tendency and doesn't give free gold/vision with passive... I like it when devs try to renew the game, but when they seem to cater the metas to these new mechanics, it makes me cringe...

Jayle272 votes

hmmmmmm..... might I say we have bigger issues? "cough, cough" Illaoi

3rd Age2 votes

{quoted}

hmmmmmm..... might I say we have bigger issues? "cough, cough" Illaoi

LOL

Critmaster Garen3 votes

{quoted}

hmmmmmm..... might I say we have bigger issues? "cough, cough" Illaoi

yea, she still hasnt received the buffs she needs.

Shadow Gilgamesh1 votes

Probably so they can buff his W/passive's damage. I would be absolutely pissed if they buffed his damage and he was still able to fly down a lane with a 2 second AOE stun half to three quarters the width of the lane, then following it up with a 4 second slow

Matezoide1 votes

Better than buffing him.

Surr20plz1 votes

6.8 mage update patch confirmed.

CoolMike1271 votes

If they are nerfing Aurelion Sol, it means that either he currently is over-performing than intended in multiple different circumstances and situations, and/or if he will be over-performing with other changes/update that are also going to come out in the following patches.

Riot test things out in Beta first before they become official, so just slowdown a bit before going on a rant saying he is going to be "nerfed to the ground" before it even becomes official.

Sintama1 votes

Because they're fucking morons and have no idea what they're doing.

Kodyack1 votes

I'm not going to say I understand balance issues better than anyone else; but with how Aurelion fares when you know ANYTHING about how to counter him, I can't say I understand nerfing him either.

having played with and against him a few times, and playing him myself, I will say his damage is rather high, and his CC amount is fairly over the average, however if anyone gets within his passive... he dies, flashes, or ults, nothing else really. if his flash or ult is on cooldown, tough luck he dies.

that being said, his ult is rather powerful I suppose, so I could possibly see a nerf... but realistically, I think he's a good example of a balanced design and power level that is getting nerfed too quickly to the point that I really just don't want to even bother putting more time into learning him.

Then this in comparison to the constant Lucian picks, and various other champions that have few or no counterable strategies besides a few specific champions (that if they simply wait till last pick you lose by default) makes me question Riot's decisions on balancing, but I do understand it's a precarious situation with how many champs exist.

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