Riot logic: Giving leavers LP penalty messes up system (DELETED TWICE CAUSE OF TRUTH)

nUcLeAr KeTcHuP·3/5/2015, 4:36:25 AM·13 votes·6,010 views
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I am unsure if the moderator thought i was negative, but I wasn't if they actually read my post. My previous post got deleted This time I will try to be as factual as possible Everything I say is intended for Ranked play only

Riot does not give an LP punishment to leavers.(aside from normal loss)

Leavers Gain MMR if their Team wins even if they have contributed NOTHING to the game

Riot gives an LP punishment to QueUE dodgers, but not leavers.

Riot logic : "If your team wins, you will gain points; if your team loses, you will lose points. Whether you are in the game at the end is irrelevant to this outcome. If we gave you a penalty even if they won, we would be "deflating" the entire system of ratings over time, causing new players to possibly run into professional players eventually."

^that will never happen, unless pros just decide to frequently leave all the time, like its acceptable or something

Also I think being in the game at the end can be pretty relevant to an outcome.

I would also rally for a ban system in which there is a zero tolerance policy on ranked leavers. This would include a very light slap on the wrist 30 minute ban for first time offense, and steeply go up in duration to say a max of maybe two weeks from ranked play if someone repeatedly leaves ranked. (keep in mind they will still be able to play normals) If a user plays some agreed number of games (maybe 10-20 ranked games w/o leaving) then their punishment should go back down to that of a first offender.

A fix to the report system is needed too. Riot should limit the # of reports a player has based on the number of games they have played, so everyone cant just report everyone. Also Riot should punish false reports. Limiting report number, and punishing false reports will increase report quality.

Another solution to toxic players should be a sub forum similar to the tribunal in which summoners post screenshots or chat logs of very toxic players they have played with. (must have evidence) This will relieve many frustrations people have when playing with a severe troll, and give them a sense of accomplishment and relief knowing that the extreme toxic will most likely get banned. There have been several occasions where I have opened a riot support ticket just because i got extremely trolled. A rioter, should then browse this subforum with a ban hammer, banning these accounts or restricting them after one last official review.

I have played this game for god damn 5 years and I WILL NOT BE SILENCED

Upvote for truth

Please read the poll as (Leavers that dont Reconnect* should always Face an LP punishment) my post got deleted so many times I Mis-wrote the poll

110 Comments

Matthias91193/5/2015, 4:48:12 AM4 votes

MMR != LP. AFAIK you will lose LP even if your team wins if you were flagged as a leaver.

MMR gains and losses are balanced so that you can't game the system to get matched up with weaker players intentionally.

Thresh Outta Fux3/5/2015, 4:55:52 AM2 votes

Did it seriously get deleted again? Thefuck man.

nUcLeAr KeTcHuP3/5/2015, 5:00:47 AM2 votes

If we gave you a penalty even if they won, we would be "deflating" the entire system of ratings over time, causing new players to possibly run into professional players eventually."

Please though, I need help understanding this. Someone please explain how this works?

georgiotatos3/6/2015, 8:06:22 AM2 votes

i think leavers should also have a higher chanse of being matched with each other, in over 2k games that i have played i have afked 6 times and all of them were because of black outs in my area, i want to be matched with people that have an afk ratio similar to mine

what happens instead is in 51 ranked games this season i already had 21 afk teammates while 1 afk opponent

last season i started at b4 went to s3 75lp in 125 games i had a total of 47 afk teammates and 6 afk opponents, fml, i still managed to climb but it was so annoying, i had to win 2 4v5s in my promos from b1 to s5 ,i ll never forget that time i lost my promos from s5 to s4 we were winning even with a 4v5 and then an other one of my teammates leaves and we lose 3v5,

i think thats ridiculous and something should be done about it

GnomeDigest3/6/2015, 6:11:06 PM2 votes

[{quoted}](name=MOJO SO D0PE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wsAuQlXx,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-03-05T04:36:25.635+0000) Riot logic : "If your team wins, you will gain points; if your team loses, you will lose points. Whether you are in the game at the end is irrelevant to this outcome. If we gave you a penalty even if they won, we would be "deflating" the entire system of ratings over time, causing new players to possibly run into professional players eventually."

Shouldnt a person be banned for leaving long before they can drop so low for a pro to run into low elo players? Riot knows their systems and apparently believes they would not be banned.

Apparently Riot has as little faith in their leavebuster system as I do.

nUcLeAr KeTcHuP3/10/2015, 6:46:25 AM2 votes

I have just played another game, where someone left on purpose. can we please temporarily restrict on first offense.

LeonDemonOfDeath3/9/2015, 4:24:46 AM1 votes

Wait you're saying I got LP all those times I was playing hard and about to win with my team but my laptop shut off because of Windows updates or some bs? Wow that's a huge weight off my back lmao, and I actually got pretty pissed at my laptop those times. GG no re.

nUcLeAr KeTcHuP3/5/2015, 4:51:35 AM1 votes

Read this section - Can I beat this system by leaving the game early? https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752954#q8