Patch 6.4 Notes

Dealth·Feb 24, 2016·7 votes·1,809 views

If the boards was the balance team:

Patch 6.4 Notes

Towers

Turrets now have 400 armor and magic resist, triple attack damage and double attack speed.

Items

New Item: Spellbook - Grants 120 AP, 100 Armor and 30% Cooldown Reduction.
New Item: Mana Potion - Restores 100 mana over 15 seconds.
New Item: Sight Ward - Lasts 180 Seconds.
New Item: Vision Trinket - This trinket places a vision ward.
Iceborne Gaunlet now only works on melee champions.

Champions

Zed, Lee Sin, Fizz, and Yasuo have been removed from the game.
Xin Zhao buffs reverted

Other

New Item spot for wards added

38 Comments

maxaroni118Feb 24, 20163 votes

tbh the people that complain abt how the high burst champs are op are just super salty

can anyone of you actually pull of the difficult combos? i understand about master yi and volibear and jax and maybe fizz

but srsly lee sin? zed? leblanc? talon? all those are high skill cap champions with many hard combos that if u dont hit, u r fucked

u try playing a talon and going one shot against aa malphite... its not easy

how about leblanc outplays when ur at like 300 health against 3 people? again not easy

these champions are not broken but only that people are exceptionally good at it and have the ability to hit those combos

just because they can go so pro and look unfair doing it doesnt mean its easy and should auto be removed

DealthFeb 24, 20164 votes

I know lol this is just a parody of the front page basically.

The reason people call these champs "no skill" is because whenever they are outplayed by one they feel embarrassed and have to blame poor game design instead of just admitting they got outplayed.

maxaroni118Feb 24, 20161 votes

the real no skill champs are ones like Amumu Annie Heimerdinger MasterYi Nasus

since they do shit ton of damage free bcuz they dont need any real skill to pull off the combos

and nasus? omfg he just q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q, q,

then he be like ok im done farming 30 minutes into the game

comes mid, oneshots tower, next tower down, then the inhib tower, then the inhib itself, then the nexus tower, then the other nexsus tower, then he walk into the fountain and ults and one shot all the enemy team, then oneshots his own team, and q the nexsus is dead in two hits and he is still alive in the fountain wtf

then theres annie

this cute little angel who has the OMG HER VOICE IS CANCER AHHH FUCKING HELL ITS SO SCARY MAKES ME WANT TO WATCH OUIJA AGAIN!!!

then she just procs her stun, uses "Tibbers" and one full rotation real quick and u are dead. On cooldown? noo problem, just back and have tibber tank and scare them away.

amummu? oh hes just great. except for the fact that his damage is entirely in hhis e, and if he goes ap, he just needs to q, ult, w, e and stand next to u for u to die

oh great

xl Kirito lxFeb 24, 20161 votes

People remember the skillfloors, not the skillcap. An amazing Talon, and an average Talon are pretty hard to tell between. It's all about knowing damages, and speed of combos. Same with all of those champions. It takes a lot to play them well, but it takes next to nothing to play them.

maxaroni118Feb 24, 20161 votes

umm a good talon and a bad talon

differences: good talon actually lands combos and minimally dies even

bad talon lands some combos but not as fast and allowing reaction and outplay time

a good zed can oneshot in like 3 seconds

a bad zed will never finish procing the ult

it does seem like it takes next to nothing to play them but really?

if u just play them i doubt u could land half of any combo

its hella hard to land a good talon combo of youmuu's, q, e, tiamat, w, r

try doing that in 1.32 seconds (my record)

ik im kinda protective as i am a midlane assassin main but srsly they are really hard to play and u just need to shut them down once midgame and they are useless

xl Kirito lxFeb 24, 20161 votes

No, I completely agree. But an average talon can go E-Q-R-W, like I usually do, and still have enough burst to kill someone. I know this is a horrid example, but I played recently, my... 3rd game of Zed ever? 1st in a year or so. I have no idea how, but I was able to get kills. I was messing up nonstop, jumping to the wrong shadows, having no idea how much burst I had, but I was still able to assassinate.

I'm not saying assassins are easy, they're harder then mages to play, but they work, regardless of how much skill you have.

maxaroni118Feb 25, 20161 votes

i can see what u mean

since the damages on zed, and talon those two being the most effective assassins

u dont really need to know combos on them to kill

but if u dont know combos there is a really high chance u fuck up and die

so ic what u mean

BluePolarizerFeb 25, 20161 votes

I don't consider anyone in silver or bronze to even be bad. They aren't playing League of Legends. They're playing a game related to, but not, League of Legends.

People in gold start having the right to be bad at league.

maxaroni118Feb 25, 20161 votes

lmao k but as i am in bronze from getting shitted on by plats in my placements!!! (thanks rito for the fair analysis on how to match make)

i know what i mean and u have a diff definition so thats fine

Mecha MaIphiteFeb 24, 20161 votes

talon is not hard

he may take practice to master but that's applicable to almost every champ

maxaroni118Feb 24, 20161 votes

true that talon is not hard since your enemy will auto tilt just seeing you

you snowball really well

and your damage is insane but if u dont land ur combos effectively

what is the point?

ik its applicable to say that any champ is hard to master but talon, zed, leblanc are the ones i feel that actually need alot of dedication to play right

Mecha MaIphiteFeb 24, 20161 votes

ive seen talons do really good even though their combo order and speed just made me cringe

he really isn't that hard

maxaroni118Feb 25, 20161 votes

yeah bcuz all u need to do is q to get it ready, then e, aa, w, etc then get the fuk out unless u want to die

he is not hard to play but he is really hard to play well

those people will get kills but u got to admit, its not clean, there are sacrifices, and there are not as much kill potential as others

look bruh all im saying is that talon is a difficult champ to play effectively

CrossetteFeb 25, 20161 votes

I'm maining Lee as of two weeks ago, he's EASY AS FUCK.

Zed, LeBlanc and Talon are literally three of the easiest mid laners simply because their damage (both base and scaling) gives them the potential to go into a Maw or other defensive item first without caring.

What, outplaying? Having three blinks and the damage to burst a 4k health 250 armor Cho'gath is ok, right? Yeah, totally. Especially when you do it after you've been silenced and knocked up after your ult.

maxaroni118Feb 25, 20161 votes

lmao here is a perfect example of a salty summoner

(ayy lmao alliterations for the win)

hey just bcuz damage is high doesnt mean its free

the cost is being susceptible to cc, and u are normally veeery squishy as an assassin

also if u hate thos 3, then we might as well take out the whole assassin class bcuz they all do the same thing

kill quickly and back the fuck out

it is in the kit to do that but also they lack any defense at all

so next time u see those, chill

CrossetteFeb 25, 20161 votes

Considering I play all 4 of them, I think I know a bit of what I'm talking about.

Zed's main problem isn't even his kill ability. It's his mobility, safety, counter to AP (which is more itemization) and manaless poke from across the lane.

LeBlanc needs lower damage, at least slightly. When I can do 800 damage as soon as I hit level 6 something is wrong.

Talon is Zed without as much poke, and he actually uses mana. I'd be fine with him if his base damage and mobility weren't so damn stupid.

maxaroni118Feb 25, 20161 votes

i agree on talon and leblanc may need a slight damage buff but i am still adamant about zed being completely balanced

i simply dont see how u people dont know how to counter a zed

u just go someone with a counter to his ult

lissandra is a huge cock block

any ranged midlaners basically make his life hard (as long as u do damage in ranged aa)

things like ezreal mid make it hard for him to even cs shutting him down for an eternity

CrossetteFeb 25, 20161 votes

Except even if you can stop his ult, he has an extreme amount of safety that only Ezreal can really defeat.

maxaroni118Feb 26, 20161 votes

there actually are alot of common things to do to counter him in his ult

see his ult deals rlly low damage but amplifies all the damage dealt in the time the mark is up, then pops that for a percent of damage

that is key

in the time that the mark is up

now u know the key time to stop any damage

you can

silence him
cc him
become untargetable
invulnerable
invisible

the only way he kills u is if he can use his abilities and one aa (as far as i know)

thats why fizz is so good against him

he basically has 2 untargetable things

MizayaFeb 26, 20161 votes

I have played at least 150 games on Lee and I still suck at him. Like mechanically, I can pull off the combos but decision making in teamfights is hard af. Early game not so hard, but he's not as straightforward later as someone like Vi who just press R on enemy carry. My s3 stats on him are 70-88, avg KDA 4.9/4.8/8.1

DealthFeb 26, 20161 votes

You don't have a single lee sin game in your match history liar

CrossetteFeb 26, 20161 votes

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=CataclysmG

Change "All Champions" to "Lee Sin"

DealthFeb 26, 20161 votes

Unless the match history is broken you have no lee sin games you can check for yourself

CrossetteFeb 26, 20161 votes

I checked for myself.

I would refresh it, maybe update the data? Either way I'll post a screenshot of the page after uni.

Rem Was HereFeb 24, 20162 votes

Dont forget talon, leblanc, jax, mundo, volibear, master yi, lux

CherysseFeb 24, 20161 votes

Oh I don't want Lux to be removed, I just want her to actually take more risks, too much range for that much damage and low Cd's

I would reduce the width of Zed's Q

I would increase the base CD of Fizz's E and increase it's base damage as compensation.

Make Lee Sin spend mana or actually spend energy, he spams too much and camps too much.

Xin buffs ust be reverted.

Yasuo, even when he is underpowered right now (he depends a lot on his team) he is also obnoxious, he needs more base damage and less defensive capacities.

VerxintFeb 24, 20161 votes

next patch

OMG WHY IS VIKTOR SO OP RIOT WTF WERE YOU THINKING

xl Kirito lxFeb 24, 20161 votes

Aside from removing those champions, and Iceborn being ranged only, instead of melee only, I'm good with all of that. Might add a bit more skill back to the game.

DealthFeb 24, 20161 votes

oops lol thats what I meant to do for gauntlet.

Mecha MaIphiteFeb 24, 20161 votes

{quoted}

New Item: Mana Potion - Restores 100 mana over 15 seconds.

drools

HyperSMBFeb 24, 20161 votes

{quoted}

If the boards was the balance team:

Patch 6.4 Notes

Champions

Zed, Lee Sin, Fizz, and Yasuo have been removed from the game.

Xin Zhao buffs reverted

Zed...Lee...Fizz and Yas removed?????

I am all in on this patch.

xxxDogmanxxxFeb 24, 20161 votes

If Xin Zhao was at an average 5/10 as a champion in 6.2, he became an 8/10 after the buff in 6.3 and now he's a 3/10 in 6.4 due to the salty as fuck boards. Riot completely fucked up his attack speed and healing now in the most recent patch.

Fisherman FízzFeb 24, 20161 votes

Fizz removed from the game

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

Critmaster GarenFeb 24, 20161 votes

{quoted}

New Item: Mana Potion - Restores 100 mana over 15 seconds.

New Item: Sight Ward - Lasts 180 Seconds.

New Item: Vision Trinket - This trinket places a vision ward.

so basically simple reverts that actually feel necessary.

DealthFeb 24, 20161 votes

thats what people seem to want

Critmaster GarenFeb 24, 20161 votes

how about this?

minions dont split push anymore death timers reduced to almost 50% like before this season steraks now only grants its shield passive at 3000 max health and upwards steraks is now melee only

dorans shield damage block increased to either 12 against ranged auto attacks.

new resolve keystone. taking champion damage builds charges. at 100 charges the next unempowered (regular) auto attack is set to 450 range and deals 3% max health bonus damage. taking ranged auto attacks builds twice the charges.

essence reaver bonus cooldown reduction from critical strike % reduced to 10%