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Everyone is ignoring Riot's other problem

Kuma No Neko··3 votes·696 views

Sure champs being stupidly strong on release is bad Ekko RekSai Sure champs being overloaded isn't fun Ekko LeeSin and sure champs having no counterplay sure sucksEkko Leblanc But anyone notice Riot's theme of ADCs? Currently you can't do anything against ADCs, item 3031 item 3035 item 3087 Means you can't itemize against them unless you have 600 armor and 8000 health. How does Riot remedy this? Nerf the best ADC and let the second best ADC take their place. (I can't remember the order it went in but here's what I mean) Twitch Nerfed Draven Nerfed Corki Nerfed KogMaw Nerfed Graves Nerfed Tristana Nerfed Lucian Nerfed Jinx Nerfed Why not just nerf the objectively best item in the game that gives 80 damage, 20% crit chance and 50% increased crit damage. There's no beating it in efficiency, it gives you stupid amounts of damage and combined with Last Whisper means that even if you dedicate your ENTIRE build to armor you will still get melted by their ADC, while Last Whisper is also still effective against squishy targets (but oh god forbid soraka go mid lane)

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Lost In Time1 votes

Ekko no counterplay?

vs Leblanc dealing 1000+ damage with mimicked W alone?

kay

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

you totally got the point.

@ topic: many champions in the game can 1on1 and/or oneshot marksmen or squishy type champions in general and have reliable ways to do so with flash and ignite up, leaving little counterplay for the adc since their damage is instant or their follow-up not flashable.

marksmen thrive in the current state of the game because people watched 3 LCS games and saw cinderhulk toplane, which isnt even played anymore, and saw cinderhulk jungle, which has tons of alternatives allready, and they say its a "tank meta".

ofcourse, if you MAKE it a tank meta you stupid douches. so just start picking good champions again who beat tanks and marksmen alike. is it THAT HARD to use your own brain? oh no this week it was vladimir and maokai top, HAVE TO PLAY THEM NOW, TOO BAD

ShuffledPancake1 votes

All adcs are squishy, gobble em up.

2gud4nubs1 votes

no one's ignoring it, no one gives a f***. it's a game, just play it, if you're gona whine go QQ on another game son

Lucky Sandhu

adc counterplay... cc and item 3800 .If they have attack speed item 3143 , if they have damage item 3075, If they have everything, use your skills to get to backline.. Gragas Hecarim Jax Malphite Nautilus Zac MonkeyKing Vi . All these champs if get to backline or catch their adc can kill them pretty easily, adc wins if they can stay in backline. That's the whole point of them having range and tanks having gap closure abilities.

Kuma No Neko1 votes

The problem isn't that "they're squishy and can be dealt with" because so are mages But can Veigar ult 1.9 times a second? Can Diana ult for no mana cost, with infinite charges and from a range? Did they change Le Blanc's Q to hit 3 people every 2.3 seconds? ( Kalista ) They made Luden's Echo for mages, which they're promptly nerfing but Statikk,Infinity, and Last Whisper go unchecked forever other than a 5% crit chance nerf

Lucky Sandhu1 votes

adc still are not that strong, they are strong if fed and so are tanks. I don't think the items need nerf, adc have those items because there are tanky items. Tanks will be unkillable otherwise or tanky items will have to be deleted.

Kuma No Neko1 votes

Jinx doing 2000-3000 damage per second means she instant kills squishies, and melts tanks before they can do anything, Marksmen should be about sustained ranged damage, like an artillery gun in a strategy game. They shouldn't be about "Doing what mages do except multiple times per second". If someone has a Thornmail,Frozen Heart,Randuin's and a Sunfire then Jinx with IE and Last Whisper can still melt them easily. If someone has a Banshee's Veil,Spirit Visage, and an Aegis they're basically invulnerable to Veigar or Ahri unless maybe they're 100% itemized to tank killing. While also being equally squishy.

If mages did equal damage to ADCs sure that would be overpowered, I like mages. They usually have diverse abilities and building paths, some for killing tanks and some for killing squishies. ADCs have the exact same build path other than a few exceptions because Infinity Edge is just STUPIDLY efficient and Last Whisper removes the only counterplay there would be to that item, I mean what's the downside to doing 250% increased damage vs doing 100% damage?

BluePolarizer1 votes

ADCs are immensely overpowered and they are the only class that often has an entire team comp dedicated to them (the 4 protect 1 team comp, featuring Jinx KogMaw Vayne . If an ADC becomes fed, vs a tank becomes fed, I'd take the tank becoming fed 10/10. Why? Because they do zero damage to bruisers while bruisers do a shit ton of damage to tanks due to their typically mixed damage, having item 3153 as a core item or building of heavy arpen/mpen while taking near zero damage from tanks due to their own resistances.

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