Does Gunblade really need this much damage?

doiminat0r3600·Nov 8, 2016·1 votes·745 views

I know it's the active and all but do we need an item that can take half the HP of a squishy if it's rushed first? Do we really need an item that does 274 damage (that is including scaling off its own AP)?

I know the item is essential on some champions but it seems rather excessive to let some champions be able to have this extra damage.with their burst that is designed to 1 shot champions.

Edit: Why is this being downvoted? It's a legitimate question.

Edit 2: Why does it have that high of a base damage? That's what im saying here. IDGAF is the math seems wrong but the point still stands. It does way too much damage for an item.

23 Comments

PrimaquariusNov 8, 20164 votes

274 magic damage...

One-shot squishies...

How do these match again?

GULAG 4 UNov 8, 20161 votes

rulezofmath

doiminat0r3600Nov 8, 20161 votes

Again, Half HP. Janna has about 700 HP. The item's active + one ability = half HP.

GULAG 4 UNov 9, 20162 votes

700/2=274

Damn logic!!

GULAG 4 UNov 8, 20164 votes

"half of the squishies HP when activated"

Ehhh do your math again dude.

1 800 Top LaneNov 8, 20163 votes

If you're dying to a 274 damage active you might need to rethink some other choices in your games.

doiminat0r3600Nov 8, 20161 votes

Im saying that an akali can jump on you with her entire kit that was designed to kill squishies but doesnt even need to use all of her kit if she has that item.

If she rushes that item first, and gets it at level 5, she can get half the health off of most other champions with a Q + active.

1 800 Top LaneNov 8, 20162 votes

Half? man I wish I played with that much room for error. Half the AP carries 80% your life in a single combo at lvl 5. Especially with Thunderlords ignite cheese.

doiminat0r3600Nov 8, 20161 votes

What? I'm saying that the damage is too high on gunblade.

Akali Q at level 3 does 75 + 40% AP. That combined with the 250 + 30% AP, it will do upwards of 400 damage with only the item. This isnt even counting the potential auto attack to add another 95 + 50% AP.

Big LincolnNov 8, 20162 votes

good thing she doesn't have gunblade at level 3

LordGeovanniNov 8, 20161 votes

Revolver items need some damage tuneing but Gunblade supposed to be a hybrid item but no ad scaleing only ap. wanted to adress that for a while

doiminat0r3600Nov 8, 20161 votes

The 80 AP that comes with it adds to the scaling of the active, making it deal 274 damage if you have no extra AP.

It is really strong, especially if you rush it. The active alone makes it worth the farming.

LordGeovanniNov 8, 20161 votes

I May be a little slow but idont think that relates to what i was saying

doiminat0r3600Nov 8, 20161 votes

I'm saying that the lack of AD scaling doesnt matter when the base damage is that high.

LordGeovanniNov 12, 20161 votes

true if it didnt scale for ap either. but the item was intended to be hybrid it should have hybrid scaleing even if they have to cut some of the base or ap scaleing.

the weeabooNov 8, 20161 votes

Gunblade is a situational item because so few champs can actually utilize the stats and damage. This is basically mplimited to Jax and Akali. Everyone else is pretty trash with it.

doiminat0r3600Nov 8, 20161 votes

The problem is that if these champions build it first, they generally snowball the game because its active damage is so strong. It needs to be toned down.

RavenhaleNov 8, 20162 votes

I think Evelynn is probably the only other champion that is good with it, assuming she doesn't go straight AP.

the weeabooNov 8, 20161 votes

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I think Evelynn is probably the only other champion that is good with it, assuming she doesn't go straight AP.

I suppose but usually going one or the other is preferable for the sake of over utility and damage.

TrekkormNov 8, 20161 votes

But... item 3146 Rumble is so much fun...

Then again item 3146 Jax is not so much. Figures.

Jesus Is My KingNov 8, 20161 votes

item 1057 item 3155 item 3156 item 3001 theres your options you monkey maw has a shield, you want me to argue why it has a stupid shield that protects so much? ?????????????? god i hate stupid posts like these

doiminat0r3600Nov 9, 20161 votes

Really constructive. Typical "too much damage, build defense" argument, even when it is isnt even the point of my argument.

My point is that the base damage is too high. Why is it 250 with a ratio?

Jesus Is My KingNov 9, 20161 votes

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Really constructive. Typical "too much damage, build defense" argument, even when it is isnt even the point of my argument.

My point is that the base damage is too high. Why is it 250 with a ratio?

???????? maw is not just defence you goon, either is abyssal. why is maw a shit ton of defense to gunblades active?