Why dodging shouldn't make you lose LP

Cosmochris·Aug 17, 2016·4 votes·1,905 views

Honestly this is a meta of team compositions and its pretty much this: you need at least 1 tank/cc champion in order to win games so the more you have the better chances you got. I do realize that is not always the case, maybe if my team are all getting fed and are doing well despite the fact the enemy team have a good amount of tanks and cc. However in my elo (I'm Gold 3-4 but playing with silvers cause elo hell) most of the time that won't be the case. In champion select if i see my team picking kat mid yasuo top nid jg and the enemy team chooses jax top cho mid mumu jg then i know for a fact my team will lose. In this case I want to dodge but don't want to get punished for it. I tried dodging once and it took 15 LP away... i mean I'm ok with the time restriction after dodging but losing lp i think is too much

27 Comments

1wolfpackAug 17, 20164 votes

the good old days when u can dodge with no consequence, yeah that is not happening. people will be dodging left and right.

you'd go from 10 mins to get into a game to 30+ mins.

CosmochrisAug 17, 20161 votes

lol i don't think you read my post

1wolfpackAug 17, 20162 votes

do you think a small time restriction is considered punishment? cause its not really.

also what your asking for used to be a thing, but its not anymore for a reason.

CosmochrisAug 17, 20161 votes

yeah you probably didn't read my post... 1st dodge 5 min 2nd dodge 10 min etc... 3rd dodge of the day can have LP penalty. basically i don't want to play with trolls and we should have the opportunity to not be forced to play with them without losing 15 LP. I just had an ap varus top against malphite right now and you can guess what that was like.

1wolfpackAug 17, 20163 votes

this is your post, striaght copy n pasted:

"Honestly this is a meta of team compositions and its pretty much this: you need at least 1 tank/cc champion in order to win games so the more you have the better chances you got. I do realize that is not always the case, maybe if my team are all getting fed and are doing well despite the fact the enemy team have a good amount of tanks and cc. However in my elo (I'm Gold 3-4 but playing with silvers cause elo hell) most of the time that won't be the case. In champion select if i see my team picking kat mid yasuo top nid jg and the enemy team chooses jax top cho mid mumu jg then i know for a fact my team will lose. In this case I want to dodge but don't want to get punished for it. I tried dodging once and it took 15 LP away... i mean I'm ok with the time restriction after dodging but losing lp i think is too much"

where in your post do you mention " 1st dodge 5 min 2nd dodge 10 min etc... 3rd dodge of the day can have LP penalty" thank you.

believe me smarter people than you work on league and im sure someone there thought of your idea first and it got rejected. sorry not sorry

CosmochrisAug 17, 20161 votes

I didn't say that i mentioned that i said "1st dodge 5 min 2nd dodge 10 min etc... 3rd dodge of the day can have LP penalty" in my post... i just added it on as a solution....

Umbra ZAug 18, 20161 votes

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do you think a small time restriction is considered punishment? cause its not really.

also what your asking for used to be a thing, but its not anymore for a reason.

if its not punishment what is it?

1wolfpackAug 18, 20161 votes

A punishment is supposed to deter people from committing the same act over and over.

On no planet would a small time restriction deter anyone from dodging to avoid a 20+ min game that they feel is un-winnable.

Umbra ZAug 18, 20161 votes

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A punishment is supposed to deter people from committing the same act over and over.

On no planet would a small time restriction deter anyone from dodging to avoid a 20+ min game that they feel is un-winnable.

what about on a planet where people would rather waste 20 minutes than suffer that 5 minutes before you even get in queue

1wolfpackAug 18, 20161 votes

lol, alright I give.

let me know when they discover that planet. you and op can move there and finally play league in peace.

CalabokAug 17, 20162 votes

You dodge, you should be punished

CalabokAug 17, 20162 votes

The dodge system is working great imo. Although I think it lacks increased penalties for abusing dodge past 1/2 hour or over 3 dodges per day to include even more LP deductions

AviatinqAug 17, 20162 votes

You get a penalty because you're wasting 9 other people's time. If you honestly think you're gonna lose just straight from the team comp, then be glad you get to lose 3/10/15 lp instead of 20+ that you would from losing the game.

CosmochrisAug 17, 20161 votes

i lost 15 lp first dodge

AviatinqAug 18, 20161 votes

I'm pretty sure that's not how it works.. but i wouldn't know. I don't dodge.

waitthisisntdotaAug 17, 20161 votes

they shouldn't make you lose 15 lp after a second dodge, with this community you get a troll every 3rd or 4th game so I think it should just be a time penalty so people can't spam

Handy Sandy Aug 17, 20161 votes

Not everyone will use dodging like you do. Trolls will dodge constantly, like waitthisisntdota is saying..."With this community you get a troll every 3rd or 4th game" Then almost always you'll get someone dodging just for laughs. What if you think you're going to win solely by looking at the matchup? It's perfect, free S and a win! Nope, someone thinks otherwise and dodges without being punished. Even if you think you'll lose, it really matters on the person's skill level not the champion, but that doesn't matter because my words mean absolutely nothing because I'm not ranked yet and that completely changes what my words say, I haven't got gud yet.

CosmochrisAug 17, 20161 votes

oh yeah you should play ranked for a while then you'll see what i am talking about. Thats why I said there should still be the time penalty and who knows maybe riot can come up with something like you can only dodge 2 times a day and 3rd will cost LP penalty. Anything to not have to play with an AP varus top against a malphite

Handy Sandy Aug 17, 20161 votes

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oh yeah you should play ranked for a while then you'll see what i am talking about. Thats why I said there should still be the time penalty and who knows maybe riot can come up with something like you can only dodge 2 times a day and 3rd will cost LP penalty. Anything to not have to play with an AP varus top against a malphite

Varus can poke malphite easily, ranged champions usually win against close ranged champions such as malphite since they have to go close in order to last hit a minion resulting in malphite being starved of cs.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 18, 20161 votes

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Varus can poke malphite easily, ranged champions usually win against close ranged champions such as malphite since they have to go close in order to last hit a minion resulting in malphite being starved of cs.

yea that isnt ideal though u have a champ ment to be ad and to be a carry trying to go ap vs a champ that at lvl 6 has insta kill . i have played malp into quinn, vayne, teemo, and just build def til 6 all in and kill and snow ball from there. i have also beat a vayne top as garen 1st item was item 3075 after that i made her life hell.

Handy Sandy Aug 18, 20161 votes

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yea that isnt ideal though u have a champ ment to be ad and to be a carry trying to go ap vs a champ that at lvl 6 has insta kill . i have played malp into quinn, vayne, teemo, and just build def til 6 all in and kill and snow ball from there. i have also beat a vayne top as garen 1st item was after that i made her life hell.

If the varus is smart, he shouldn't die. It really matters about skill, then anyone could go anywhere. That varus would still lose as an ADC if he lost to top lane.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 18, 20161 votes

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If the varus is smart, he shouldn't die. It really matters about skill, then anyone could go anywhere. That varus would still lose as an ADC.

how is varus gonna stop a malphite ulting him varus is a squishy, malphite blows up squishy with ult . he has an attack speed debuff any auto based champ needs attack speed to manage their damage. yes malph scales with armor but vs an ap varus malph can go item 3001 item 3211 item 3057 and all in at lvl 6 and win easily

Handy Sandy Aug 18, 20161 votes

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how is varus gonna stop a malphite ulting him varus is a squishy, malphite blows up squishy with ult . he has an attack speed debuff any auto based champ needs attack speed to manage their damage. yes malph scales with armor but vs an ap varus malph can go and all in at lvl 6 and win easily

Freeze lane at turret and farm under it

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 18, 20161 votes

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Freeze lane at turret and farm under it

malphite is one of the best turret divers

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 18, 20161 votes

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Freeze lane at turret and farm under it

ap varus build item 3115 item 3124 item 3165 item 3089 item 3158 item 3091 vs Malphite with item 3001 item 3025 item 3102 item 3111 item 3083 item 3068 i think wins the all in

RevertAsolMay 12, 20181 votes

Imo it shouldn't make u lose lp i mean 30min or so before being able to play again is already a good punishement. I don't mind 3 lp but 10 is wait to much stacked with the time restrict.

ScibraAug 27, 20181 votes

Riot just appears to hate one-tricks (be it role one-tricks or champion one-tricks). Can't turn off autofill, get punished for dodging because of autofill, get screwed over even more because you autofilled and lost due to it. Autofill is just a lazy way of making people play Support and Jungle, instead of making them more enjoyable to play themselves.