The Hardest Thing About Being a Tank Support
...is always having to try and steal that damn siege minion from your ADC.
...is always having to try and steal that damn siege minion from your ADC.
As
support I do naut have this problem.
I hate you, but I will give you a +1 anyway
We need to get to the depths of this problem.
[slayer-jinx-unamused]
These puns are getting pretty Naughty
I think we need to be anchored down before we go too overboard on these puns
I sea what you did there. Stop fishing for upvotes. I do naut approve.
Water you talkin' about? These are naut that bed
I'm getting hooked on these puns.
life
Just forget Relic Shield on Thresh in lower elos. I switched to Coin ages ago. (feelsbadman)
I do the AP Item, because it gives that extra Damage per Champion and Turret Hit, which stacks nicely with a 100% Flay Passive.
So I just focus on Harass/Zoning and get mad bank wailing on Champs and Turrets.
All other Tank Supports (which Thresh doesn't start out with, do to 0 Base Armor, but certainly becomes if he's grabbing his Souls even in Pro Play I see WAY to many Souls left to wither on the Rift) I do go Relic on.
That being said, I also sell the AP Item once I'm a bit built and heading to late game as the damage is no longer that great and I'm not big of Frost Queen's with Thresh (where I do complete Relic to FotM... I never use Coin on any Support really).
Thresh has 0 scaling armor not zero base armor. #themoreyouknow
RIght, had it backwards.
Still, he's not a Tank at Level 1, even with a Relic Shield.
I used to run coin on Thresh until the preseason started. My 9/0/21 masteries for the starting 10% CDR is gone and they took the movement speed away from
and
. Feels like the preseason changes as a whole made tank Thresh completely outclass utility Thresh. Which sucks because I really miss utility Thresh.
i miss utility any support you get punished for having utility with low ap on the items you build cause carries could abuse them but they wont raise your bases or ratios and they dont provide much in the way of survival stats
Then they yell about you stealing CS... with your Relic's that gives them the Gold and some Health for it.
That's when I wish we could Deny Kills... and just kill our own ADC from 100 to 0.
Then they yell about you stealing CS... with your Relic's that gives them the Gold and some Health for it.
That's when I wish we could Deny Kills... and just kill our own ADC from 100 to 0.
Play Tahm kench. EzPz.
No mention of the woes of attempting to kill a superminion here? Love when my allies swing by the wave while I'm chunking away on a super as Braum, trying to stun it and expecting some help. Then they proceed to kill the rest of the wave and WALK AWAY, because clearly I'm going to finish off the super. 
I was expecting a tear instead of a rageblade.
Overused. And Braum doesn't cry.
I guess the heart really is the strongest muscle.
Braum's Shield can melt thought!

Woah woah WOAH!
Wait...
It can melt thought!? Like... your mind? Which eldritch horror did he get that thing from!?
: Thank you for the new shield, my strange, floating, tentacled friend.
: The subject is easily manipulated with a show of feigned generosity.
: What?
: Nothing...
I just spam
''ON MY WAY''
''ON MY WAY''
''ON MY WAY''
Pings on the siege minion as it walks into the lane
when I have time, I type
''Lemme siege''
Then I cry because my ADC still takes it ;_;
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lol. tfw your charge is like 3s away and your adc clears the wave.
...as thresh without the melee execute.
They didn't spend 2 years learning how not to miss canion minions just to let you lasthit them.
I'd have some sympathy for tank supports if they didn't get a free lv 1 Sona heal just for AA a minion with a 350 gold item. Which is beyond BS.
Which is more of a problem with Sona having a terrible heal.
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Which is more of a problem with Sona having a terrible heal.
Not going to deny that. It's pretty shit. But should tanks really have a free heal? I mean healing themselves, sure. They have to take a risk hitting that minion. But their adc doesn't. And for 350 gold, it's pretty ridiculous they get a free heal. If you want to heal someone, you should have to take someone with a heal in their kit. If tank's couldn't heal their adc for free, bottom lane would change quite a bit.
To be fair whenever you're going in to get that, you're gonna be poked since most champions that have this item are melee. As for healing the ADC, they usually walk into every single damn skillshot from the support so I appreciate this. It's a very small heal and only up once every 30 seconds or so.
its not a free heal its a miniscule heal on the first item you buy with a pretty long cooldown. the reason why it heals the adc too even though the heal is still pretty shit is cause the adc has no reason to let you exicute the minion other wise. adc mains dont and wont worry about letting the support hit a minion to heal themselves cause they dont think that it will help them but will harass the support who constantly has to back when they have no hp.
its not a free heal its a miniscule heal on the first item you buy with a pretty long cooldown. the reason why it heals the adc too even though the heal is still pretty shit is cause the adc has no reason to let you exicute the minion other wise. adc mains dont and wont worry about letting the support hit a minion to heal themselves cause they dont think that it will help them but will harass the support who constantly has to back when they have no hp.
It is free. It does not cost any resources.
That's not a good enough reason whatsoever. A 350 gold item that gives health and gold should not be giving 80 health to the lane every 60 seconds. That is beyond OP.
doesnt cost resorces like auto attacking. abilites some champions on the whole. life steal. crit. free cleanse on
and
. free slows on
. so on and so forth.
you pay the gold to get the effect on the items 80 health every 60seconds a support can auto attack twice at lvl 1 and pass that in damage but its beyond op for you to have to go up and execute a minion that has reached a certain health to get 80hp and it. when you go to exicute minions as a tank support your enemy generally deals far more damage to you than 80 damage wait that 80 health isnt even going to you just 40 of it you take about 120 damage more or less to get 40 hp because lets face it your adc is most likely untouched in the back of you its not cause you want the health its cause you want the gold. but 80 health 40 to you and the person you share with is so op its gonna break the game thats why no one builds spell theifs edge that does 10 extra damage on auto attacks and spells every up to 3 times every 30 seconds. while relic sheild heals 40 damage for 2 people is breaking the game.
relic sheild 's heal/exicute to get gold can'teven be used when you are alone.
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Not going to deny that. It's pretty shit. But should tanks really have a free heal? I mean healing themselves, sure. They have to take a risk hitting that minion. But their adc doesn't. And for 350 gold, it's pretty ridiculous they get a free heal. If you want to heal someone, you should have to take someone with a heal in their kit. If tank's couldn't heal their adc for free, bottom lane would change quite a bit.
But it isnt free
They literally paid money for it
...is always having to prevent your ADC from stealing that damn siege minion.
fixed it for you
I'll give you every cannon minion you want. Just don't get ahead of yourself and waste an auto attack before you can execute it. If you use an auto and don't execute and it's low, I'm taking it. Not going to risk missing a cannon because you attacked too early and your AS is too low to get it before the minions.
Wow, it's like you were IN that game I just had.
Well then now you know :P Know what your execute point is and watch their health so you don't attack too early.
play tahm kench, eat that shit and spit it away from him... damn adc's
And that is why we
.
My problem is that I like Thresh and Leona's utility but I hate standing up front
?
I was once accused by my ADC (cough Vayne cough yes I am racist championist right now) for farm-stealing. Additionally, it was also my fault she kept wasting her ult to "chase down" full HP tanky support leagues away from her, only to watch the support go to the lands of eternal turrets second later. But she went from 0/5 early game, once she strated roaming, to 9/5 (first kills were taken from teamfights, others were just Vayne being Vayne assasinating lonely squishes to death by monstrous right-clicking) so it was my fault of being bad support and "farm-stealing" her.
That sounds like what a Vayne main would say. Or a Yasuo. Or Riven. Whats the jungle equivalent of those champs?
and
in the jungle come to mind. Both love using their ult to chase like mad... don't always know when to stop and let it go. And thus can often end up running right into trouble.
'Cause who knew that running across half their jungle to get behind turret to kill confirm without ward coverage was a bad idea?
... Wait for it.
An Ally has been slain!
when I ping the seige minion and my adc dives the enemy tower -____-
Honestly, they should just have the execute proc against melee and caster minions from full health once you've got the final item built.