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There is NO counter play to Evelynn!

El Psy Kongrooo·2/25/2019, 11:06:42 PM·2 votes·4,396 views

Even if I ward her jungle camps, and know her general location, I still can't even leave my tower! I spotted her topside, clearing a jungle camp, and had vision of her heading towards topside lane from the camp, before she disappeared into stealth. So I was farming a little bit out of my tower as Vlad. Little did I know Eve walked towards top lane, before stealthing, and turning around to come mid! Without even charming me, I got instantly killed 1v1, with no time to react at all. Either her stealth, or burst need to be lowered.

Warding against a jungler, is your only defense from a camp, but Evelynn, and Twitch can still camp you, and kill you, even when you are under your damn tower! There is no way to effectively ward against an Evelynn, but at least Twitch isn't perma invis after lvl 6, and you just have to ward near his camps! Warding her camps isn't counter play! Sure it might save you once, or twice, but you still won't know where Evelynn is headed after clearing that camp, as she will stealth quickly, running in one direction before stealthing, and turning around to kill you.

Most of the time I'm near the front of tower farming, no charm on me, and instantly I explode before I can even react 100-0! All she does is freaking Q E R me! Even if Evelynn fails to kill me, I am forced to back to base, or risk getting dove by her and my laner, losing xp, and gold. If Evelynn messes up, and really puts herself in a bad spot, all she has to do is press R, and walk away!

More of Evelynns damage should be tied to a full charm, to give players enough time to react, and damage should be taken away from Q E. It's okay for an assassin to do damage, but stealthed assassins, should lose damage to compensate for their ability to ignore vision, and should not be able to insta kill me from full health, with only 3 abilities. Really the only counter play is having a jungler like lee sin, and praying he drives her into the mud before 6. Fun when your game relies solely on one other player right?

As a disclaimer I do play Evelynn jungle sometimes, and I normally do very well with her, but when I want to play mid, or top, she is a nightmare! My first time playing Evelynn, I went 14 0 16, and got a lot of hate from the enemy team complaining of no counter play, and Damn were they right! Thematically Riot has done a wonderful job, with the rework, but I always get left feeling cheated, and terrible after playing mid, or top vs an Evelynn jungle.

I will admit when I wrote this I was terribly salty, and was unsure if control wards actually revealed Evelynn. I still feel she is too strong in the current meta, but it's not like riot will actually nerf her.

17 Comments

Oleandervine2/25/2019, 11:10:16 PM8 votes

Evelynn is not busted. You need more control wards up. She is detected by them, and you will see her coming. Additionally, most of her damage is in her Q and E combo, and she has to get fairly close to use them. Her charm also has a directional indicator when it reaches its peak, so you know he her exact direction in relation to you. The majority of her burst comes from R, which is an execute.

So if you are incredibly squishy, you will die if she catches you out, as that's what assassins do.

Also, she cannot tower dive you without her ultimate or she dies.

JohnnyNeverSins2/26/2019, 2:10:23 AM4 votes

You died playing Vladimir from a gank,that's all I have to say.

TheUrbanKitsune2/25/2019, 11:13:57 PM4 votes

"Even if I ward her jungle camps, and know her general location"

This is counterplay.

"There is no way to effectively ward against an Evelynn"

You said it before, ward her camps, she can't take them while in passive stealth.

"Warding her camps isn't counter play!"

Yes, it is. It gives you and your team valuable information. She's super squishy too, when you see her on a camp get lane priority and ask your jungler to help catch her out.

"More of Evelynns damage should be tied to a full charm"

A lot of damage is. She does considerably less without charm. Was the Evelynn in question perhaps just super fed?

" compensate for their ability to ignore vision"

If you're actually under tower like you keep saying you were she would be revealed-- towers have true sight.

Any decent jungler is going to invade the hell out of an Evelynn. Warding her camps and shutting her down early pretty much takes her out of the game. I'm a support main and I can't tell you how many times I've fucked over the enemy jungler by deep warding their camps and collapsing on them with my ADC/jungler.

Cacomiztle2/26/2019, 1:28:18 AM1 votes

So...

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Wiggily%20Bridge

Your complaints come from your frustration from 1 game, 1 single game against evelynn.

Your problem wasn't evelynn per se, it was the platinum player steamrolling in a normal game.

banana boy2/25/2019, 11:09:49 PM1 votes

She really only has a 50% winrate. So what was that about no counterplay?

Zoe0neTrick10/21/2019, 4:34:14 PM1 votes

The fact is there is no counterplay to her combo shes 100s to 0s you late game with 1 charm which is no healthy for the game tbh.. May aswell just bring back DFG if this is still a thing no way to outplay that bs.

d4rkshock2/25/2019, 11:50:30 PM1 votes

item 2055 and put thay shit in a bush near your lane assuming your top or bot. If you see her near wolves or raptors when she ears them, back up for a second. She isnt invisable when she attacks. It also also a maximum range. Besides isnt instant 100-0 with no time to react the point of an assasin. She also cant get out without her ult. Most Evelynn use the charm before hand early to make sure that her teamates can capitalize on it. Also if you're a juggernaut or tank,you shouldn't be dying ti any assasin that comes to gank unless you're low hp.if you do, either your team fed or your trash and its mostly the second one.

Phieldworker2/26/2019, 12:49:46 AM1 votes

Learn have control and how to play closer to tower. For her to be able to burst down a vlad without w means she is very farmed or has 3-4 kills on her already. Learn prime spots to ward as well with control wards.