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The game doesn't need more of Riot's class reworks

Derfel··4 votes·762 views

I'm really getting sick of Riot just throwing out changes out willy nilly because oh it's a class rework we have to change something and end up destroying the non existent balance of the game even further.

What did the ADC rework accomplish? They're all still the same shit minus the ones that are currently out poking and out bursting mages (joob job on those lethality changes btw /s). What did the mage rework accomplish? Nothing. Malz was deleted from the game and replaced by riotrepetoirs new champion Zalm, everyone else is the same. Oh you gave Syndra/Zyra a needless change that completely broke their balance for a while then you had to revert it after 6 months of total mid/supp lane domination, so they're now pretty much in the exact same place pre rework. Assassins? This update pretty much boils down to taking the cancer that was release LB, most of early seasons Kat and release Khazix and moving it to season 7 so everyone could experience what's it like to have someone else play league while you jerked off in a corner because lol counterplay. Course Rengar needs CC immunity we can't leave him out it's an assassin rework gotta change something about him.

Just stop. The game doesn't need a Sejuani that ignores damage, it doesn't need a Hecarim that does 100% true damage but only if you win this mini game where he has to touch both of your butt cheeks with his! Irelia doesn't need her Q turned into a skillshot.

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chipndip12 votes

Assassin update made LB and Kat more healthy, made Rengar's ult less toxic, and made Talon more interesting and less generic. Assassin rework was pretty good. It's the itemization that's fucked.

Mage rework fucked up Malzahar, but it improved Cassiopeia by leaps and bounds and made Annie less ridiculous in her burst combo. It made Syndra not useless...and then later work made her not broken, so she's aight now. Vel is largely the same, as is Brand, but Zyra got a way better passive than her near useless old one.

Marksmen update was fine. The issue with marksmen is that they're heavily balanced around power curves rather than actually being much different from each other. Best fitting curve for the game environment becomes the best marksman, which causes most marksmen to fall out in comparison to the top few no matter how good of a rework you put out. The fact that marksman lane balance is largely based on the marksman vs. marksman match-up makes it even harder to find a real balancing point for the class. Where divers/jugs/mages of different flavors/etc. are balanced against, well, ALL the classes, marksmen are just balanced against other marksmen. The class and bot lane would need a massive overhaul to fix this.

Meserion1 votes

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Assassin update made LB and Kat more healthy, made Rengar's ult less toxic, and made Talon more interesting and less generic. Assassin rework was pretty good. It's the itemization that's fucked.

Mage rework fucked up Malzahar, but it improved Cassiopeia by leaps and bounds and made Annie less ridiculous in her burst combo. It made Syndra not useless...and then later work made her not broken, so she's aight now. Vel is largely the same, as is Brand, but Zyra got a way better passive than her near useless old one.

Marksmen update was fine. The issue with marksmen is that they're heavily balanced around power curves rather than actually being much different from each other. Best fitting curve for the game environment becomes the best marksman, which causes most marksmen to fall out in comparison to the top few no matter how good of a rework you put out. The fact that marksman lane balance is largely based on the marksman vs. marksman match-up makes it even harder to find a real balancing point for the class. Where divers/jugs/mages of different flavors/etc. are balanced against, well, ALL the classes, marksmen are just balanced against other marksmen. The class and bot lane would need a massive overhaul to fix this.

Sorry Rengar's ult actually got worse, massive movement spike plus auto crit? yeah thats worse.

Rengar Top Lane1 votes

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Assassin update made LB and Kat more healthy, made Rengar's ult less toxic, and made Talon more interesting and less generic. Assassin rework was pretty good. It's the itemization that's fucked.

Mage rework fucked up Malzahar, but it improved Cassiopeia by leaps and bounds and made Annie less ridiculous in her burst combo. It made Syndra not useless...and then later work made her not broken, so she's aight now. Vel is largely the same, as is Brand, but Zyra got a way better passive than her near useless old one.

Marksmen update was fine. The issue with marksmen is that they're heavily balanced around power curves rather than actually being much different from each other. Best fitting curve for the game environment becomes the best marksman, which causes most marksmen to fall out in comparison to the top few no matter how good of a rework you put out. The fact that marksman lane balance is largely based on the marksman vs. marksman match-up makes it even harder to find a real balancing point for the class. Where divers/jugs/mages of different flavors/etc. are balanced against, well, ALL the classes, marksmen are just balanced against other marksmen. The class and bot lane would need a massive overhaul to fix this.

The fact they made his ult less toxic, whilst making his Q, W, and steroids on bonetooth necklace 'toxic' is a problem. Can't wait for a revert.

Big Lincoln1 votes

too bad, you're getting them

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