Why is Liandry's getting changed? (an issue with max % hp burn)

DaCurtis·2/8/2018, 7:10:47 AM·1 votes·600 views

Liandry's Torment was a great pick. Some people would buy it for the +15 magic pen, sure, but the real appeal of buying it was for its current health burn. This made it exceptionally well suited for countering enemy champions that built a lot of hp. It was a counter item. Fun and balanced because you wouldn't get the most out of the item if you built it against low hp champions, (unless you ran to late game).

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I'm not going to tackle the 'Essence Drain' passive, because that's a can of worms on its own. All I will say is that it adds way too much value to the item.

Now moving onto the issue of changing this passive from 'current health' to 'max health' burn. The reason max health items don't work on ap champions, is that DOT abilities make it BROKEN (apparently you've said you want to make DOT like that though, so why?). Max health items like bloodrazer and to some extent BoTRK work well on AD champs is because they have to consistently attack the enemy to get the most out of it, they're not an ap champ with a single button press and 70% of their hp will go because they built the new liandry's.

Riot what you've done is taken something that used to be a good counter item and turned it into an item that will be good to buy 100% of the time.

Change it back to current health. You will have a better chance at balancing this item.

2 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer2/8/2018, 9:19:50 AM1 votes

PhRoXz0n answered that in the actual OP:

Liandry's Identity:

  • Liandry's has a split identity on Live, it is both about the Flat Pen and the % Current HP tank busting profile.
  • This makes it generally good against all targets (live state) OR underpowered.
  • As a result, we wanted to split out the Flat Pen from the burn that Liandry's is associated with, this made sense to put on Morellos.
  • This meant we needed to find a passive that makes sense for these types of patterns (a passive that synergizes with DoT champs).
ShuyinTheX2/8/2018, 12:57:05 PM1 votes

they're not an ap champ with a single button press and 70% of their hp will go because they built the new liandry's.

glances at Morde and Brand