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Let's talk about Magic Resist

SolusInCadere·12/13/2015, 5:07:27 PM·2 votes·471 views

As a tank enthusiast, I have been frustrated with the stare of Magic Resist on the rift recently.

So lets look at our MR options: item 3102 is my go to tanky MR item. It is very good item 3065 is another good option, but only on sustain heavy/reliant champions. Bascially, on those it works with, it is a must have, on those it doesn't, its nearly useless item 3222/item 3174 are only viable options if you have heavy mana problems. And they are more likely bought for the mana font passive item 3111, another solid option, but the MR is kinda low, and it needs to be paired with another MR item unless you are up agaisnt a magic damage low team. and if so, the issues with MR item choices don't matter anyway item 3139: ADC item only, and bought more for the active than the MR. item 3156: a good option only against burst magic damage, and only on those who benefit sufficiently from attackspeed, lifesteal, and spellvamp all at once. Notice im leaving a decent amount of MR granting items off of this list. These are merely the items that grant a large quantitiy of MR, and I was stretching it on a few of those. Conversely, every item below grants a butt-tonne of armor...

Compare this to Armor items: item 3143: good against ADCs and a massive boost to effective health. comparable strength to B-viel, the ONE SOLID MR ITEM! item 3742: good for direct and follow-up initators, or conversly for those who struggle to get into postion during teamfights. Effective tankiness again on par with B-veil item 3110: good for mage tanks, with a solid amount of CDR and mana. Not quite the amount of effective health as above options, but stil helps a ton agaisnt AS reliant damage sources. Similar to Spirit visage, in that it works wonders on some, and is nearly useless on others. But again, Spirit visage is one of the best MR options item 3025: see above points. It is niche, much like Spirit visage, and very good on those who can utilize it. But again, a 'meh' armor item comparable to one of the top MR items item 3068: a massive boost to effective HP and a decent damage boost. Good for those not running cinderhulk. item 3075: Not as good in terms of effective HP compared to some others, but can occupy an offensive item slot on tanks, especially when up against a fed ADC item 3157: you're not picking this up for the armor.

So, in terms of quality, armor items take the cake. They provide massive amounts of HP AND Armor. In terms of quantity, armor wins again, with many more options and more importantly enemy specific options.

The reason I think this is true is due to the nature of the armor items: most grant large quantities of health in addition to armor. Because of this, a tank building even 2 armor items is gaining so much HP that mages have no chance to burst them. Therefore the small amount of MR provided by things like Merc treads goes a long way. This is a good thing.

My issue is that I don't have very many options in terms of my dedicated MR item slot. B-Veil is pretty much the only MR tank item I can get.

9 Comments

WalkingInACircle12/13/2015, 5:34:17 PM6 votes

Uhm, yeah, you buy a Spirit Visage or a Banshee's and forget there are AP champions in the game.

qetzel12/13/2015, 5:41:19 PM3 votes

My thoughts on the discrepancy.

One one hand, you are right. There is less variety with MR items. On the other hand, too many MR items in the game can shut AP champions down hard. AP champions are typically burst champions and are limited by cooldowns. If a tank can force an AP champion to attack them this is typically more useful than forcing an AD champion to attack them, as the AD champion can continue to deal damage with auto attacks later on in the fight. A mage has to wait for their cooldowns. If large amounts of MR were in a build, mages could be completely shut out.

Given that the damage is applied in different ways, the two resistances need to be treated differently. It sucks, but there you go.

Sneakyy XD12/13/2015, 5:16:50 PM2 votes

Just to point it out, Visage is better than Banshee's even if the champion has no healing at all and even if the team also has no healing. The 10% CDR is far better than the shield.

Brendy Bear12/13/2015, 5:32:34 PM2 votes

I wouldn't mind the Orb from Howling Abyss to be put in Summoner's Rift

Abyssphere12/13/2015, 7:28:04 PM2 votes

While there could be more MR options, the problem is that giving tanks 5 MR items to choose between gives them the option to just choose more of those items than is appropriate. It's difficult for mages to handle tanks with one MR item as it is - tanks with two MR items are untouchable. That's not true of tanks with two armour items.

Pedo File12/13/2015, 7:04:43 PM1 votes

Really for the past couple days whenever i get SLIGHTLY ahead on an ap champion the opponent stacks mr and im pretty much useless youd be surprised how much damage reduction you get just by buying a item 1033 Its really dumb.