"Panic Buttons"

SolusInCadere·12/27/2015, 11:36:40 PM·16 votes·1,753 views

I was recently on a LeeSin dissusion thread and someone mentioned how his ultimate allows him to escape situations in which he made mistakes and 'should' be dead. I tend to refer to these abilities as "panic buttons", and I want to make a discussion specifically on them.

There are many champions in the game who lack panic buttons, even those that rely on all ins. XinZhao and Amumu are good examples. Then have to dive in to operate, but once there, they are sticking to their guns until the fight is over, or they're dead.

A panic button isn't always mobility, it is just any ability that a champion can throw out on reflex to escape a bad situation. Yasuo's Wind wall is a good example. If he is caught out, or about to get hit by some skill shot, he cad just win wall ON REFLEX.

Now, having a panic button isn't a bad thing, but the problem comes when a champion has too many, or their panic button is too potent. Ekko is a good example of this. His ulti is the best panic button in the game. It not only whisks you away from danger, but also heals you. And not only that, but the healing scales with recent damage taken, meaning the harder you screw up, the better the ability is at saving you.

how many panic buttons is too many is very subjective. For instance, LeeSin has his ult, and his W (ward hopping or not), to escape danger/being out of position. But whether two is too many or not is subjective. Riven is the same way. She has a dash (E), shield (E), stun (W), and more dashes (Q) to escape trouble. If she plays conservatively with her cool-downs, she is nearly impossible to catch.

summoner 4 is fantastic proof of the potency of panic buttons, as it is the universal panic button. All of a sudden, champions like Mordekaiser or Maokai can get away from a situation they would normally be left helpless in. And the fact that nearly everyone runs flash is evidence the panic buttons are extremely valuable.

I think that the mobiltiy creep has increased the number of panic buttons champions are equipped with, as they not only often come in the form of mobiltiy, but are also needed to counter mobility. TahmKench is a good example. His E is a good panic button, as it scales with how hard you screw up and got harrassed, and his W provides any given nearby ally, and himself, a panic button. All of a sudden, tanks, who would normally come with at most, one solid panic button like Vladimir, or many times none at all Chogath (although his E can let him escape, its not a reactionary "oops, I messed up, time to press this button" kind of ability), are equipped with multiple panic buttons.

I don't really have a set opinion on what Riot should do with/about current panic buttons, or how they should implement them in the future, but I will say this: They often feel like cheating. I can catch an Ekko out of position, even chase him after his E (which is a panic button), and wail on him, but unless I can hard CC him through the entire fight, he can always ult back to safety and recoup a lot of the damage my team managed to throw on him. It feels like cheating, especially if I'm playing a champion who lacks that capability.

"oo, I got caught out as Xerath, well, I'm dead now." compared to "I ulted in at the worst time ever as Zed, but the enemy didn't immediately dump all their CC and damage onto me, so I blinked back to safety with my W."

Edit: I think that the biggest thing about panic buttons that makes them unfun/unfair is their reflexive nature. Azir, pointed out to me by a helpful commentor, can keep his E off cooldown 24/7 until he needs to jump away. his E does not have any other use, besides an all in, and because it can be augmented with either his W OR Q, he will almost always have the ability to escape.

Similarly, Yasuo can wait until the last possible moment to black an attack, making his Wind Wall hard to bait out of a good player. In this way, the Wind Wall will almost always be up to save him from impending doom

50 Comments

Bonipherus12/27/2015, 11:43:14 PM8 votes

I like discussions like these. First panic buttons i thought of were Azir and Soraka ults though. I think having an ult that gives that kind of instant safety needs to be offset by how powerful it should be when you don't use it in a moment of panic such as: Ekko ult.

Troiann12/28/2015, 4:27:25 AM6 votes

If you're going to call yasuos W a panic button, then you're going to have to call amumu's ult a panic button, because it roots all the enemies around him while he gets to walk away. And Xin's ult knocks everyone away, panic button alert.

Hell, just about every champion has a panic button, if your definition of a panic button is some form of escape or something to aid their escape. Might as well consider nocturne's spellshield a panic button then right?

And what is this biased post anyways? Cho gath's Q has much more uses than yasuo's windwall as a "panic button". Here, let me give you an example in top lane. Yasuo fights darius. Wow, his windwall must help him a lot there. While cho gath can just Q him and walk away. Who has a panic button now?

Oh, cho gath has to aim his Q? I wasn't aware yasuo could just windwall any random moment. I like how you describe him. "oh he just presses W and gets an escape". Rofl.

Spoofghoul12/28/2015, 12:25:10 PM5 votes

Sion Panic button is the best tho

Nothing beats screaming COWARDS!! As you charge away like a high speed train to safety

No surrender12/27/2015, 11:49:29 PM4 votes

Well... this hurts only older champions, but on the other side new champions are more interesting to play.

If you want to kill Leblanc Jax LeeSin etc. you need somebody to help you - by help I mean to take alternative positions where LB / Jax / Lee could dash. Many times when I am in Teamfight vs Ekko or Leblanc I try to don't get too far from their escape points (Ekko's ghost, and LeBlanc's [W] mark on the ground). Secure their escape routes and you will be fine, and if you don't have somebody to help the slow CC can be better than stun (if you play champions with dashes, like Akali + item 3146 )

Akali and gunblade is perfect example that you can catch everything if it won't escape behind the wall out of your vision. With Akali and item 3146 you can catch even Ezreal who used [E] and [Flash]

Get correct picks vs defined enemies.

Spacesuit Spiff12/28/2015, 12:31:59 AM4 votes

Keep in mind many of these skills have offensive uses too, and youre often made to pick between 2 functions

Catastrop12/28/2015, 12:49:41 PM2 votes

I think you meant Chogath's Q and not his E, as that is his Vorpal Spikes.

FastAsHeck12/28/2015, 9:27:05 AM1 votes

As a mastery 5 Ekko I have to disagree with his ult being a panic button. It is far more than that. You can say that I'm biased (which I probably am) but I also have a lot of experience with this guy.

Teridax6812/28/2015, 9:37:45 AM1 votes

I'd say there's merit to waiting until the last moment before pressing some panic buttons, e.g. Ekko's ult, Tahm's E, Yasuo's W, since it requires you to put yourself as close to death as possible before pulling out a clutch save. The potential issue with effects like Tough Skin and Wind Wall, imo, is that they're super effective even if you don't use them that well, since they last so long and provide so much protection that they can essentially freeze combat for a few seconds.

As for your view on panic buttons, I largely agree that champions tend to feel really frustrating to play against once they have too many options to get out of fights, which is a major problem with a lot of assassins, who are designed to get in and out of combat safely as they murder priority targets. I also feel the frustration induced by panic buttons is also dependent on the rest of a champion's kit, namely how much extra opportunity it gives them to exit combat: Yasuo's Wind Wall would probably be less frustrating in its current state if he also didn't have plenty of dashes and an extra shield to absorb more damage, for example. Panic buttons are supposed to give champions an extra chance to fight, but are irritating to deal with if they feel like get-out-of-jail-free cards.

Stained Spear12/28/2015, 10:43:26 AM1 votes

As a xin main, I agree he has no escape or panic button. He said once you go in, meaning activating xins passive which cancels his ult cc and his e cant ward hop so hes basically stuck.

doombotMECHA12/28/2015, 12:31:55 PM1 votes

now, this may be me just fanboying over ekko because i really like him as a character, but i feel like he pays for his panic button more than, say, yas. this is because his has a pretty solid cd on it, and just using it to escape danger means that he can't access its optimal use case--getting his hologram into the middle of the enemy team and then hitting r to end the fight.

morris112/28/2015, 4:36:13 PM1 votes

Seriously? Panic button thread but no Fizz ?

barbarianskull12/28/2015, 6:07:03 PM1 votes

Kassaden?

Captain Aishi12/28/2015, 9:45:19 PM1 votes

summoner 4 as a panic button is for wussies, I use 90% of my flashes to get into someone's face and smack them! :P

YCitizenSnipsY12/29/2015, 2:20:13 AM1 votes

wtf is that Xin example, his ult has a knock back just like Lee's and is often used in the same way. Oh I picked a fight I'm not going to win, here's a free 1000 unit dash and .75 second stun while i walk in the other direction.

Miku Lv9912/30/2015, 3:35:54 AM1 votes

Good stuff. I personally hate the champions that have strong panic buttons. What's the difference between a very mobile ADC and one that is very immobile? Well, the mobile one can get away with attacking in situations that the immobile one would find it too dangerous to attack during. And if the enemy team has strong enough zone control, the immobile ADC may never be able to go in, because as soon as he/she does, the enemy team can just cc and then kill him/her, without him/her being able to do anything. And this happens a lot in low elo where the rest of the team doesn't know how to protect the ADC. And I find this just horrible for the game as mobility is so powerful that in this light, it actually makes an ADC infinitely better than one that doesn't have an escape.

Weathered12/30/2015, 3:46:42 AM1 votes

Shaco Q

Nuff said.

ZT Xperimentor12/28/2015, 12:25:19 AM1 votes

Yeah I agree this has been one of the most frustrating creeps into the game (with mobility behind it).

Sassmast3r12/28/2015, 7:04:10 AM1 votes

I think panic buttons in general, when used excessively in a champions kit, or really efficient ones, only frustrate me when I'm using a champion with an obsolete version of them. For example, I was using Ashe a few weeks back, and I was versus a Vayne/Thresh bottom lane. There were numerous times where both me and my support were able to catch them out, but I wasn't mobile enough as Ashe to dodge any Thresh hooks, Vayne condemns, etc. But not only that, I wasn't mobile enough to finish them off... when I'd used every single ability in my kit INTENDED to finish them off. It was a very frustrating lane in general.

My point is, if we're going to have panic buttons, I honestly believe that not only every champion should have close to the same amount as every other, but they should also all be as effective as each other. Ashe isn't even a bad ADC, but she's one of those champions where you have to put three times as much effort as anyone else to get an equal reward: winning.