Riot nerfs fiora.
Fiora mains all complain that they dont have an automatic win champ anymore.
Riot reverts the changes.
Fiora is allowed to auto stomp games again.
Just fucking nerf her and keep her nerfed. she is such a dumb champ. She has EVERYTHING.
Infinite chase, CC immunity, %MaxHP true damage, and guaranteed crits.
This champ needs to lose that fucking true damage.
Anonagon3 votes{quoted} She has EVERYTHING.
Regardless of Fiora's current or past power level, the idea that Fiora is somehow overloaded is just not true, and the fact that you even bring up the crit on her E makes it pretty evident that you don't actually understand the champion and are grasping at straws to have things to complain about.
Here's a small list of very important things that many champions have that Fiora doesn't:
I could go on, but I think that these alone make it pretty clear that Fiora does not, in fact, have "EVERYTHING". On top of all the things she straight up doesn't have, a lot of the supposed strengths she has are much weaker than they appear or than you make them out to be. In your own words, Fiora has:
Infinite chase, CC immunity, %MaxHP true damage, and guaranteed crits.
among other things. But of those things the only one that's perhaps true without exaggeration is %maxHP true damage. Because Fiora doesn't have CC immunity, she has CC immunity for an incredibly short period of time, and is absolutely demolished by CC if she doesn't have her W up. Fiora doesn't have infinite chase, she has higher than average chase that's limited by mana costs and the need to land the Q to keep chasing. She doesn't have guarenteed crits, she has a single built-in crit that doesn't even do full crit damage until its maxed. None of these things are nearly close to as strong as you think they are.
As for her %maxHP true damage, I'd argue that its reasonable, at least in concept. %maxHP true damage is just another tool Riot can give a champion to give them more effective damage against tanks without necessarily having to build for it. This is incredibly valuable for a melee carry like Fiora, because she has to be in melee range of tanks, and therefore more vulnerable, to deal damage to them, therefore its reasonable that Fiora should kill a tank faster than a ranged carry. While most other melee carries don't have %maxHP true damage, most of them do have something else that lets them kill tanks very fast. Yasuo has 50% bonus armor reduction, Yi has massive flat true damage as well as insane synergy with bloodrazor and Bork. These could all be said to be weaker than Fiora's true damage, but those champions also have other steroids that make them more effective against squishies than Fiora, so it is a reasonable trade-off.
Yma S2 votesI've never lost to a flora playing my unpopular top picks.
Bait her riposte then kill her
It'd not very difficult
AirKingNeo2 votesShe doesn't need to lose her true damage, just a decent chunk of it. Also some of her attack speed slow and early healing, revert the AD ratio on Q buff, and remove the stun part of parry.
Also obviously nerf Bramble for everyone's sake.
archerno11 votesSo she needs to lose her bread and butter? What makes her viable? You are only person in months that complained about Fiora. Instead of asking for nerfs, learn to play against her.
Rewt3 voteslemme quick learn how to play against the be all end all damage type that has no counter to it.
Physical damage, Armor. Magic Damage, MR True Damage, HP %maxHP True Damage, there is nothing you can do about this.
Lemme quick learn how to play against a champ that heals 1/4 of her HP back every time she slaps a vital.
Lemme quick learn how to play against a champ that can become hella tanky while still being able to melt tank and squishies.
Fiora has everything. Literally the only thing her fucking kit is missing is a 1 second root on the ult.
Fiora is as broken as hecarim was back when he could just 1 shot people out of nowhere while being full tank. But you know what. He gets nerfed with 0 compensation, but fio? she gets a tiny slap on the wrists in the form of not getting as much ms when she procs a vital. But oh no. The champ isnt auto win anymore. better give her that back.
archerno11 votesYes, there is no counter to %hp true damage. Buts its not like she does %hp every hit. If you know how to position you can avoid hits and punish her hard. She doesnt have CC immunity she has one long CD ability that can parry CC which you can bait easily and its really reliable only against projectiles. She doesnt heal for 1/4 of her HP when she hits vital. She heals for 30 - 115. She cant become hella tanky. If she fails to parry stun she is dead. Fiora is skill matchup to most bruisers top. Good Riven can beat her. Good Irelia can beat her. Good Wukong can beat her. Good Kled can beat her. Good Jax can beat her. Good Camille can beat her. Yes, she counters tanks. She is one of few bruisers that have chance against tanks. If she didnt have % hp damage, she wouldnt have anything. Ninja tabi would be her counter, would shut her down completely.
Fiora isnt broken. She just requires more skill than "buy Sunfire cape and /dance"
But yes, if you suck at positioning, if you get greedy for 1 minion while your vital is facing her, if you fire CC at her in predictable way, yes, she will beat you. She punishes bad players and bad plays.
420 grams1 votesWhat infinite chase? You mean walking? Because every champion has that.
One ability to parry incoming damage for 0.75 seconds isn't really "CC immunity" since she can be cc'd outside of that short duration.
And her "guaranteed crit" is just on her second e proc and it only does 140% damage until you put points into it.
Gabresol3 voteshow about her 4 sec cd (2 if she hits soemthing) dash with 400 range and basicly no mana cost + an on hit slow + a very easy to time cc block.
420 grams1 votesThose are all 3 of her basic abilities. The cooldown also has no possibille way of getting that low even with full cdr, so that shows you don't even know the champion.
Gabresol4 votesFioras dash "Lunge" has a cd of 8 secounds once you put 5 points into it. If you build 40% cdr (for which I see no reason why you should not) you get to 4.8 secs. Correct, I did not remmeber the .8 secs, there. My bad. Howerver! The other number I remembered wrong was the cd reduction when hitting enemies, which is not 50% but 60%, leaving it with a cd of 1.92 secs, what is close enough to the 2 secs I stated.
And A Real Hiero1 votesPlay urgot or ban the baguette.