Kindred ultimate is not visually clear

Macilento·Oct 15, 2015·80 votes·2,967 views

Maybe it's just me, i don't know, but i find really hard in teamfight to track the progress of the Kindred ultimate, it's a pretty big deal. The fact that is something you see only on the ground with no additonal visual effects on the champions contibute to that too.

What i mean is that when there are a bunch of people in narrow spaces you can't see how much time passed on the ulti (since it just glow on the ground) and sometimes you mess up thanks to that. Add in all the visual effects of the spells the players are throwing and you get the idea. I would love if you could see like a bar filling up over your head or something like that, that way you know that when the bar is filled the Kindred ultimate is finished and the heal kicks in.

Just a suggestion

40 Comments

DrCyanideOct 15, 201515 votes

While fighting, the ultimate and the 'sick Wolf on everyone' ability seem visually identical. Both are black rings.

MacilentoOct 15, 20151 votes

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While fighting, the ultimate and the 'sick Wolf on everyone' ability seem visually identical. Both are black rings.

yes there is a lot of confusion on the ground, also because the "design" of the circle of the utlimate is very articulated and hard to read

Baseball3bOct 15, 20152 votes

Yeah that's my problem as well. I've misplayed a lot of teamfights because of the confusion.

The simplest fix imo would be to just change the color of one of the rings. It'd be enough for me.

MacilentoOct 15, 20151 votes

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Yeah that's my problem as well. I've misplayed a lot of teamfights because of the confusion.

The simplest fix imo would be to just change the color of one of the rings. It'd be enough for me.

yeah that would help for sure

Face The SunOct 16, 20151 votes

the funny thing was the w ring was more prominent during early testing on the pbe. My take is that this was done so it wouldn't easily give kindred away if she was counter jungling but idk.

Flash NovaOct 17, 20152 votes

even worse when its team builder or something and theres 2 kindreds... its like a giant venn diagram of confusion, which circle do i stand in ?

Solidair3Oct 15, 20154 votes

It would be nice if their ultimate was a bit more visible, I agree.

MacilentoOct 15, 20152 votes

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It would be nice if their ultimate was a bit more visible, I agree.

yeah, they should do soemthing about it, hope they see this post

Robo23Oct 15, 20153 votes

Yep, or a animation like kindred flying in the air, or wolf disappearing. What i really want tho is a delay like 1 second of kindred calling the ult. So if you are going to use garens ulti (example) then you will know not to waste it

MacilentoOct 15, 20151 votes

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Yep, or a animation like kindred flying in the air, or wolf disappearing. What i really want tho is a delay like 1 second of kindred calling the ult. So if you are going to use garens ulti (example) then you will know not to waste it

yeah, but that may be too harsh, after all it is intended to equalize fights 1 seconds delay ruins that. On the other hand the Cooldown on that ability is HUGE, so you cant do that very often

ModWulf HelhammerOct 15, 20152 votes

Pretty sure there is a slight delay when you activate it, not much, but it's there

My Waifu VanillaOct 15, 20151 votes

The cast time is already gigantic so there is no need for further delay. What I would like is for her Q to either proc her E or at least shoot the arrows before she hits the ground or even both because it feels like forever for her arrows to fire and her base AS is so bad that getting that 3rd hit in an early gank is nearly impossible.

VerxintOct 15, 20153 votes

Some clear indicator of how much time remains is needed.

MacilentoOct 15, 20152 votes

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Some clear indicator of how much time remains is needed.

definetly

Celeste BenalOct 15, 20153 votes

Agreed. Make it brighter maybe?

MLDzXnRRROct 15, 20152 votes

That troll ultimate...

MacilentoOct 15, 20152 votes

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That troll ultimate...

It's not that much troll since it equalize the fight

MetalGearTeemuOct 16, 20152 votes

its basically a better version of bard ult for everything but engagement. And it activates instantly, which makes playing any kind of hard engage comp vs kindred all but impossible unless you have like 10k lead.

dEAdbUsOct 15, 20152 votes

Kindred spells are just mess.

Zorae42Oct 15, 20152 votes

Maybe there could be a circle around the edge of the ult that goes away with the time remaining on the ult?

Like the circles around inhibitors showing how long before they respawn.

Or maybe a sweeping animation through the whole thing (in case the edge is obscured for some reason).

EspeciallyWhalesOct 15, 20151 votes

I like this idea, much more readability.

MacilentoOct 15, 20151 votes

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I like this idea, much more readability.

help me getting visibility on this thread then ty :)

MacilentoOct 15, 20151 votes

I would really want to hear Riot about this, since i'm planning to play Kindred quite a lot :D

EspeciallyWhalesOct 15, 20151 votes

I agree. When everyone is teamfighting on top of the thing it's very difficult to see clearly. I don't know if making the aoe more visible, or putting a visible effect on the champions inside would be more helpful though.

Ariel the CruelOct 15, 20151 votes

Add it to the status bar perhaps? makes it a little less apparent, but avoids cluttering up the fight further.

Carpe VictoriaOct 15, 20151 votes

Effects on people yes. Timer bar no because we don't have timers for skills period. Timers would make things way too easy.

Zorae42Oct 15, 20153 votes

Not true, Zilean's Q has a timer.

Carpe VictoriaOct 16, 20151 votes

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Not true, Zilean's Q has a timer.

But for Zilean that's literally part of his theme. It's a ticking time bomb. We don't have Zhonya timers and stuff like that.

OverpoweredSoapOct 15, 20151 votes

Make everyone affected by the ult glow white.

Does it already do that? Because I can't notice.

Sèx Craved EveOct 15, 20151 votes

No, just buy the skin tho. It's completely clear visually :^)

I agree tbh. Unless you have the skin it's super hard to tell when she ults.

MacilentoOct 16, 20151 votes

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No, just buy the skin tho. It's completely clear visually :^)

I agree tbh. Unless you have the skin it's super hard to tell when she ults.

yeah it's just really really hard to undrestand

MohawkBirdOct 16, 20151 votes

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MacilentoOct 16, 20151 votes

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I have no problem at all seeing a Kindred ult. It's literally a giant circle practically covering the whole lane, what's hard to see about it?

it's hard tos ee the progress of it

AkesgerothOct 16, 20151 votes

Have to agree. The visual effect is fairly hard to see, especially considering how important it is.

vivjan30Oct 16, 20151 votes

they put an indicator on the map

Secret Butt FunOct 16, 20151 votes

While we're talking about Kindred's R, can we also make the stack indicator of Kindred's E less odd looking? I can't tell how many stacks I have on people because it's so dark and it's like some weird pattern as opposed to the simplicity of Gnar or Vayne's.

YorukinOct 16, 20151 votes

To be fair, there is a visual indicator for their ultimate's timer: there's an intricate design within the circle that gradually lights up from the outside. When the light reaches the center of the design, the ult ends and the heal kicks off. Only problem is, the ability as a whole is WAY too faint to read in a hectic teamfight (which is exactly when it's meant to be used). By contrast, Bard's ultimate, even before it hits, is a very obvious golden ring.

GigahappytownOct 16, 20151 votes

IT doesn't need a cast delay the whole point of it is to turn 30/70 fights into 50/50 fights

BlancheVEVOOct 16, 20151 votes

Not sure how to fix the problem but I definitely agree that something should be done - Kindred's ult mid-team fight is very hard to keep track of, especially with her flickering W out on the field over it as well, so some changes here would be very appreciated.

MacilentoOct 16, 20151 votes

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Not sure how to fix the problem but I definitely agree that something should be done - Kindred's ult mid-team fight is very hard to keep track of, especially with her flickering W out on the field over it as well, so some changes here would be very appreciated.

Just hjope Rito sees this