''We will make Duskblade melee only if it becomes a problem on adcs'' - Riot on duskblade release

Idk about maw, as I think it could remain a ranged option. But I agree with steraks and black cleaver, those two are far too overloaded to stick on a marksman. I think ghostblade** should lost it's armor pen stats when the active is on. That would go a long way I think. Odd, but that's just my idea.

I think The Black Cleaver is a really niche item that not many marksmen abuse. That being said the ones that do use it get too much out of it. I don't think making it melee only is a good idea, because it is too commonly used on champions like Gnar, and they aren't abusing it as much as the marksmen are. I would say maybe make it give more health and less AD but then you are hurting assassins like Zed(not that people would hate to see something that would hurt Zed).

There is literally no valid reason to make those items melee only. Anyways, I agree on the fact that Youmuu's is way too good and should be nerfed/reworked, but Riot needs to be careful in doing so, because marksmen like and , for example, are balanced around the stat it currently gives.

No.

The whole melee only thing is such a stupid idea for most those items if not all.

Those items only benefit a select few champions in the ADC variety and you can easily shut them building them down. Take Luci for instance. He relies heavily on those items for his new build, but if you just camp him and stop/force him from farming he will never reach his 3rd item let alone start building it. Also it really only works on him and Varus as they don't need attack speed at all for their builds, so this really only works on two ADC. So you shaft champions like Urgot who needs all those items and many other ranged champions who use it for special builds because you can't handle one champion who builds well into those items.

Also duskblade is very meh in that build anyway and it procs off any hit you fire on your enemy making it worthless half the damn time.

Youmuu DOES need a nerf though. The CD on the active certainly needs to be looked over and maybe a slight change to the stats.. but even then it would ruin the item for melee who need it but not the active..

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Yeah, I personally think is the problem, as well as . is just bought for it's raw stats. Honestly, just make and melee only, nerf , and slightly rework , because it's active sucks.

I feel that would just limit and hinder ADCs and make their playstyle even more linear than it already is. Nothing good comes out of trying to FORCE a meta. I mean just look at this entire season as an example.

As far as I'm concerned, we can fix all that in the assassin update.

You realize that when ADCs go for a build where they abuse those bruiser items that they give up a lot of late game damage by not having a crit/Attack speed build right? Other than maybe Jhin who has a fixed Attack speed, pretty much any ADC building Crit and attack speed will win against an armor pen or bruiser build ADC will win the team fights at full build. The reason it just feels like they don't give up damage is because builds are strongest mid game and too many players don't realize that if they fight then, they will likely lose because of the immense power spike that ADC is in right then.

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top 30 of all champions...

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ADCs arent even relevent until 35 minutes. Of course they arent going to be top 30.