Hey guys! I'm a fairly new player (level 24). I was wondering if anyone had some tips and tricks like advanced combos, items, and gameplay for Zed, Zyra, and Poppy. I main these champs, and I think I'm decent with zyra and poppy, but unless I snowball early, I usually go negative or even with zed.
Thanks!
Veno
Shrek Luigi2 votesI'm not a Zed player so I can't help you on that front.
Poppy is an awesome laner and a great teamfighter. A lot of her kit is centered around the size of her HP pool, so opting for Titanic Hydra over Ravenous Hydra and building like a tanky bruiser is typically the best course of action. An example of a build that, I find, works quite well is something along the lines of 
--lots of durability and lots of damage. The three most important factors that differentiate good Poppy players from stellar ones are timing your W to block initiation/escapes, proper use of your Ult, and taking advantage of terrain to land stuns. Poppy is extremely good at weaving in and out of lane-trades with her opponent, especially melee ones that lack a ranged poke, and can chunk a sizeable amount of health with her Q+AA+Titanic active+Undying Grasp. Just practice with her a lot and it should come to you.
The best advice I can give regarding Zyra is to send her botlane and build her like an ADC--the enemy team won't see it coming!
VenoChron1 votesThank you sm for the advice!
Yeah I will try out various items to see how they work. I usually take black cleaver and titanic, but I'll try Maw and botrk.
As for zyra, that seems fun!!
Veno lol
Shrek Luigi1 votesI personally wouldn't run BotRk on Poppy because she has a more AD-caster-like play style and isn't the least bit reliant on her AA's, outside of procing your sheen-item and undying grasp. The gold you'd spend on BotRk would, more often than not, be better spent on buffering your Arpen, AD or tank stats.
The shields from Maw and Sterak will make you the most annoying Pappy to play against ever, but if you don't like Sterak then Warmog can work in its place--bear in mind that Sterak, however, is one of the few ways to boost your base AD values which (many people forget) is the only AD that is factored into Sheen Items' bonus damage. A last whisper item can be used in place of Maw if you don't need the MR or shield, too.
High51 votesGood advice. I like to start Cleaver into Deadman's though. The cd reduction is also a big plus imo. More hammer. Love Titanic too, but Poppy already does similar cone damage with her q, so it seems redundant to me.
The comment about w is spot on. Great for stopping initiations and locking down slippery champs like Ahri.
Void Nargacuga1 votes
is very ult reliant for his kill combo. Its pretty much ult -> W (for another shadow or W into ult but usually Ult -> W) -> E -> Q -> return cast ult. If you see this appear over the targets head (one over annie): http://www.arcana-gaming.com/content/arcana/upload/League%20of%20Legends/zed_r_indicator.jpg
Then you should know that you will very likely get the kill.
VenoChron1 votesThanks. I do know about this combo-I know the basics of the champs but do U happen to know any team fighting strategies for him?
Void Nargacuga1 votesNot really, but I will give some ideas on how I would attempt to team fight with him.
Use your W to make a shadow to throw shurikens into the enemy team and hit as many enemies as possible. Try mixing in E as well if you threw your shadow into the enemy team so you get the slow. Try not to spam everything though since his Energy pool is fixed. If I could though, I would attempt to use the W into Ult (while still using the ult from a decent range) then immediately return ult and aim my abilities and try to take out either the Marksmen or APC (whomever I originally targeted).
VenoChron1 votesThanks again!! This really helped. I wasn't sure if I should just split push instead of team fight, or such. I used to go in from the the side in order to poke or assassinate squishies. But yeah thanks sm cuz I really enjoy playing zed, wanted to help my team more in game.
Veno
Void Nargacuga1 votesNo problem! Though both of those tactics are still good if you can get the enemy to chase you down and use your shadows to out escape the chasing enemies if your split pushing. Going in from the back or side is also a very good tried and true method of getting to a squishy.
Just keep this in mind: Everyone has their own way of doing things with champions, and what works for them might not work for someone else.
Earl Eulrich1 votesZed mostly relies on knowing your opponents and then outplaying what they can do (not a problem since his w buff unfortunatelly) in an all in, until you can all in them you just farm and poke... for teamfights later on however he really relies on you knowing your limits (energy and cds)+using the ult more often than not for distraction/just to dodge while getting to the target you really want...he really needs quite some experience and it´ll take time to master him (though as it is zed, he´ll probably has to be 100%pick&ban at S6worlds till Riot will maybe take him down to a reasonable level, so he might be worth the effort).
he´s still easier than poppy though once you reach higher elos.
VenoChron1 votesThanks. I guess I gotta Sorta stay with the team and jump at adc when theres an opening, instead of immediately targeting adc.
Niyumi1 votesHave no idea about Zyra or Zed, but I can tell you alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll about Poppy.
Do you have any questions in particular? You say you're already decent with her, so what issues do you have?
VenoChron1 votesWell I do rly well in early ganks (I play her jungle) How do I play her top effectively? What items, combos, strategies, etc.? Thanks for the reply btw:)
Niyumi1 votesI play her in every role but ADC. ^^
Anyway, top is about knowing your opponent's kit, and knowing how to abuse it with yours. You have to be able to bait people into wall stuns, then you beat their face in and get out before they come out of the stun. When you get your ult, you stun then, throw Q, and then tap R as soon as they come out of the stun, and it's just a ton of damage and CC -- then follow up with another Q.
Now, unlike most people, I don't build her tanky. I build her like a bit of a bruiser-assassin mix, and just melt people. Start with a Sapphire Crystal, rush a Sheen and armor or MR boots, then build BC > Triforce > Dead Man's > Maw (if they have AP) / Sterak's (if all AD) > BORK. If you need to be tankier, swap the BORK out for Sterak's.
As for combos, E>Q is the standard one, and you can even do it without a wall stun if you can kill them. My favorite combo is W>Passive+E (animation canceling voodoo here, super cool)>Q>R when the stun is done>Q as soon as you can. This combo will kill anything but the tankiest champs, and for them, you just need to chase them a bit and try for another stun. :P
Poppy is a lane bully. So if you can survive ramming them into a wall repeatedly, do it! Push them out of lane. You can also drop your Q on the minion wave and tag them with the very end of it, while farming. You don't absolutely have to pick up your shield either -- it's really only good if you want to get in their face and stay there. Otherwise, just ignore it.
Your shield also applies on-hits, like Dead Man's, Triforce, Frozen Mallet, red buff, and all that. So use that to your advantage!
As a final note, don't be afraid to tower dive if you know you can kill them (you can stun people on towers). The passive effect on your W makes it easy to survive the shots, and the MS boost from activating it gets you out before you die.
VenoChron1 votesThank you for a really cpmprehensive reply! I will use the build path you suggested. Just one question. I usually build titanic hydra for poppy, for the sustain/health, damage, and the on-hit triggered my her passive. Can I build triforce>titanic>maw>>dead mans>bork?
Thanks again!
Veno
Niyumi1 votesIf you're determined on Titanic (which isn't really necessary, imo), replace BORK. You need the CDR from BC, and BORK is just there for extra damage, and that's all that Titanic is too. So swap those out instead. ^^
SnugglePuggle941 votesMid Zyra: Start Q as it's your main damage besides your plants. I usually rush Luden's as my main damage item and get ROA second. If against a Zed or someone similar, rush Zhonya's. Zyra is known for her great poke, AOE damage, and CC ability, but as you know she's mega squishy so beware of it. That's why building tanky is great on her, just like Annie. Her root doesn't last as long compared to say Morg, but it roots more than one person, which Morg doesn't have. My combo is EWQW then R and if that doesn't delete your mid enemy laner than also add ignite. Also Rylai's is great on her as her plants proc the slow and that also gives her a form of soft CC along with her root. Morello's burn is also proced by the plants. That's all I can think of right now.
Support Zyra: Start E. Poke with your plants but always keep your E open in case a jungler ganks or the enemy bot laners try to go in on you. Get Frost Queen, Ruby Sightstone, and your choice of boots, and somewhere in that line start the items for ROA, and finish it after you get your support items. Then you can pick and choose what items to get, like Locket if against AP heavy, or Zeke's against AD. You can go for more damage too.
VenoChron2 votesYeah I do rush morell on zyra first since I run oom a lot. But thanks for the tips! I wanna reach level 4 mastery with her lol so close.
Anyway, I'll try ur suggestions.
Thanks again!
Veno
SnazzyTheMister1 voteshonestly as a new player i would say wait until you know the game better over all and then go back to zed as assassin tend to be fragile and unforgiving and so feel bad to play when you get behind they also benefit form a good understand of your opponent as a new player you are probably still working on yourself and your own fundamentals.
poppy is a good champion to work on and can teach you alot of good basics about league and i personally like zyra but she can have a rough time being slow so just be aware of that when you are struggling in matches and learn what you need to do to stay safe while still out putting damage.
