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Done256 votes

Brand needs to have the base damage for his passive and R cut in half. Shift more of his mana management into his mana recovery passive to weaken his Support position while buffing his Mid lane wave clear.

Death by Glamour4 votes

and how will this solve thresh/Leona/ali/brand/zyra dominating botlane?

D357R0Y3R2 votes

that's what I wanted to ask

OP just wanted to share his fantasies about what he hopes, but it won't happen

Death by Glamour2 votes

im not even sure that enchanters actually need buffs, would rather just see some nerfs to the ones I mentioned and Pyke

Illabethe2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Death by Glamour,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vjiNTI1G,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-12-15T00:18:29.591+0000)

im not even sure that enchanters actually need buffs, would rather just see some nerfs to the ones I mentioned and Pyke

tbh...... they do. Support win rates aren't currently because of their own efforts. They ebb with their teams. You can be the best healer support, hit a ton of CC, and you still will be outmatched by any serious team.

P.S. The ones you mentioned have tons of counterplay. They're just annoying when you do not know that counterplay, or think you can save the counter itemization until late game, after they've already done their jobs.

Death by Glamour1 votes

enchanters are doing fine, they have solid pick and win rates currently

did I say that they lacked counterplay, no I did not. besides having counterplay does not make a champion balanced.

P.S. maybe you just like to think your a godlike zyra player rather than admitting to yourself that shes way to strong currently

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Illabethe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Death by Glamour,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vjiNTI1G,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-15T02:55:18.385+0000)

enchanters are doing fine, they have solid pick and win rates currently

did I say that they lacked counterplay, no I did not. besides having counterplay does not make a champion balanced.

P.S. maybe you just like to think your a godlike zyra player rather than admitting to yourself that shes way to strong currently

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Yeah. Leona with no follow up dying 100% of the time, and generally being easy to tear apart unless massively ahead is totally not "Balanced"

I can destroy every champ you mentioned, and it doesn't have to be with Zyra.

You don't seem to understand the concept that a lot of healer win rates are directly correlated with how their team does, not how THEY THEMSELVES do. In other words, their win rates do not reflect their own balance. That's why no matter what happens to them, they have consistent average win rates.

P.S. I think I've made comments to the effect that .... Zyra can play any role....

P.P.S. Zyra is easily destroyed by an entire class of champions: Divers. She can't react in time skill wise to assassinations/dives. Her skills don't activate that fast.

Illabethe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Death by Glamour,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vjiNTI1G,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-15T00:10:21.107+0000)

and how will this solve thresh/Leona/ali/brand/zyra dominating botlane?

tbh Zyra dominates EVERY role (even Bot)

Ragnaveil1 votes

It probably wont, which will then result in more buffs heading towards enchanters, then we achieve ardent meta 2.0.

When the simple solution is nerf upfront damage.

Infernape3 votes

Yay point and click shields!

Zen Fury1 votes

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Yay point and click shields!

Point and click what? I know I have abilities called shields but all they do is cause a graphical effect on the screen.

Or at least that's about how effective they appear to be in the League of Instagibs. A typical support build for Janna creates a shield that pops if an ADC or APC so much as farts in her general direction, assuming she isn't instagibbed in the first place.

Riot despises shields and heals. Always have.

DislocatedSquids1 votes

Yay point and click 1001010000 damage stacked auto attack procs!

Frosted Tips1 votes

All are fine but Janna never want to see her again.

Crispy0Snake1 votes

Yo W max AP Klepto Ezreal is gonna lowkey take off.

item 3003 item 3098 item 3145 item 3100 item 3285 item 3020

Trust me like, At frostfang you get 25 gold per Q, it does no damage so enemies don't care about getting hit, you max W and just W auto... I think with some work on playing it well, and maybe the build, it'll be really good. I've been completing quest at 9min and out damaging my ADC. Doing 1k damage with W auto...

Try it

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

cant, ill be banned

Crispy0Snake1 votes

Keep it to normals maybe, but it's so fun!

ez mental boom1 votes

Healbots are a cancer that I should never have to deal with

They are reverting to season 7, except they're reverting EVERYTHING NOBODY WANTED BACK

Revert the fucking masteries, not the cancer that was the ardent meta

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