I dont know about you guys but im sick of Assassins in nearly every lane.
First things first I would be interested in anyone's personal opinions and if they feel like they have more solid concrete ideas on how to properly deal with this Assassin problem i would love to hear it so i can bring it up to my theory crafting group and share it with them because we live for this kind of stuff when we get together to talk.
Also most of this is my opinion as well so take that into consideration when you post instead of just insulting me like a child would when someone disagrees with them.
Seriously the only lane Assassins don't regularly go in is bot lane and even then i see leblanc supports every now and then that do well.
You all can keep complaining about Kalista and her mobility meanwhile Assassins continue to dominate mid/top/jungle
Don't believe me.
Nidalee jungle Zed Mid Rengar top
Or
Ahri mid Khazix jungle Akali top.
Seriously every game game i go into its a Zed or a leblanc or a Nidalee or a Katarina. You know what the problem with Assassins is?
Their entire playstyles are built upon no counterplay kits. Burst
Burst is the problem with Assassins because burst by its design is made to kill an enemy before they can react. Without the ability to react there is no counterplay and the burst in league can get pretty astounding sometimes. I had a Nidalee spear in one of my games hit me for 965 damage at max range as a top lane tank maokai with a spirit Visage. Not only that but then she jumped in and did around 420 damage with her cougar form. If i had been a squishy or slightly less tankier i would have been dead instantly. Know why Nidalee jungle is a thing now?
Remember awhile ago when Riot said they wanted to make it so Nid's spears couldn't just chunk you from out of nowhere? They wanted people to see the spears coming and be able to dodge if they were quick enough. Throw Nidalee in the jungle and suddenly you got a long range hyper nuke flying out of a bush and then a flying thundercat chomping your face off. They literally moved Nid's spear hucking burst from the lane where it was most counterable to the jungle where we now have the same problem as before where she is throwing spears and people don't see them until its too late.
I don't even need to mention Zed.
Riot say's hes balanced but im sorry any champion that forces any and all opposing laners into a specific item as fast as they can just so they can hopefully survive his level 6 power spike is unhealthy no matter how you look it.
AOE waveclear Huge safety net. Great poke. Amazing all in Execute style passive. Multiple dashes.
Zed has it all and yet hes "balanced".
You know what kept Zed in check before.
AOE farm/push champs that could wave clear better than him and keep him at his turret. Riot removed that factor when they nerfed mana regen across the board and of course the only logical out come was that Zed would get better and i fail to see how Riot couldn't have noticed this when I and several of my theory crafting friends saw it coming from a god damn mile away.
Leblanc is Leblanc annoying and hyper mobile.
Katarina is just plain stupid.
AOE poke with Q and AOE clear on Q and W means even though shes melee she can still farm with the best of them just not as well as Zed can. Her level 6 is also pretty silly but not quite as bad as the rest. The problem with Katarina is when she gets a kill or two she hyper snowballs into one of the most vicious assassins with some of the most brutal burst and she will only continue to get stronger and stronger and stronger with each and every kill until she ends games by herself. If she doesn't snowball herself then shes not too bad.
Rengar
Not only does he have some really insane burst but hes also pretty damn tanky to boot and has one of the most abusive laning phases (If he lanes) in the game. His entire laning phase is all about abusing his passive in and out of the bushes and if someone even comes near the creeps and they are close enough to be leaped on he will leap on them spam every thing he has and then either heal up and walk away or slow/stun/burst you. The only way i have found to successfully deal with a rengar lane is to make sure to pull the creeps as far from the bushes as you can when they come into lane. Pull his creeps away from the bushes and your creeps will follow and suddenly he can no longer abuse his passive leap. My problem with him is that hes tanky on top of his burst which im pretty sure is one of the primary reasons people complaing about VI/Lee Sin/Jarvan in that they can be tanky and put out some super wtf damage at a moments notice.
Shaco is another jungle assassin but i find him more annoying than anything.
Fizz
I have seen this god damn blue frog go in every lane but bot and do well. Hell i watched Night blue the other day completely dominate a match as AD jungle fizz. His E either needs to have its god damn cooldown increased or they need to flat out remove all of his slows that he has because not only does he have a leap on a 8 second cooldown at max rank but he also has huge HUGE burst (100 percent AD scaling on his Q that also applies on hit affects) but he has a multitude of slows both of which are above 50 percent slows.
To sum up my feelings you cant have Assassin be synonymous with poke/mobility/all in/burst. You can't you pick 2 and then you find creative ways to make them do those 2 things. You don't give them all of them and then make them slightly weaker because then you get overloaded kits which do a bit of everything either really well or extremely mediocre.
IMO Riot is going to end up nerfing Nidalee again simply because her Kit in its current state cannot be balanced. She is an Assassin with 2 kits one that emphasizes huge poke and sustain and another that emphasizes mobility and all in burst. She has literally everything she could want in a kit split up into 2 kits.
If i were to balance Nidalee I would take the power out of human form and put more of it into cougar form and i would remove her heal because she doesn't need it. I would probably change her heal to something that fits more in line with her being raised by cougars such as her summoning a cougar to bite an enemy and slow them or some such thing. Next i would remove the god damn health percent shred on her W because whoever thought we needed that when we already have enough of it was a fool. There was zero reason to tack this on because literally thats all it is is just tacked on for the hell of it.
If i were to balance Zed i would start with his ultimate and his ability to dash to hit from any range. Thats gone i don't care thats one of the dumbest aspect of his kits. Next i would bump up the cooldown on his Q and have the cooldown be reduced for each champion hit with his Q. That way he has to decide if he wants to use it to wave clear or to poke but i would have it scale down with level and possibly lower the energy cost to compensate for the increased cooldown at lower levels and by doing this change you reward Zed players for using their Q against other players rather than just herpaderp farming earlier.
Or i could take the easy road and basically reduce the damage his Q does to minions or just flat out remove the shadow aspect of Q doing damage to minions but das lazy and not very fun.
If i were to balance Fizz the only change i would make is to his E and give it a higher cooldown because his kit is already pretty good except for his E which is the one thing that is completely out of line IMO.
Not even sure how i would touch Katarina or Leblanc since i have no idea how i would truly. You can't exactly fix a hyper snowbally Assassin without drastically modifying how they work and honestly there isn't that much wrong with her Kit other than when she does snowball she gets out of hand incredibly fast which is not something i think i would know how to deal with and the only way to Fix Leblanc IMO is to drastically rework her because no matter what they do to her unless they absolutely gut her her kit will always be super annoying to deal with.
End rant/rage.
I would be interested in anyone's personal opinions and if they feel like they have more solid concrete ideas on how to properly deal with this Assassin problem i would love to hear it so i can bring it up to my theory crafting group and share it with them.
because she doesn't trade, she gets free damage off on you with small mana costs. But that changes when she gets a morello. Literally playing every mid from
to
, i haven't run into too many people that can play assassins with these overloaded kits (such as zed) effectively to where i have had a full blown rage session.
"nerfs". He was really the only assassin i enjoyed playing at all.
is boring because he is a playmaker, but he can only make plays once every few minutes at early levels, and i don't find split pushing and hoping for someone not tanky to come and fight me to insta them.
is fun, but takes a while to do his "real" damage.
was only fun for me when he could go mid and actually be useful, or for that matter, just be useful without a forced snowball. Now the only "assassin" i enjoy is
because you can snowball in a similar way to fizz on her i've found.

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- admittedly I haven't seen Akali since her nerf)
, who shits all over most assassins in lane.
for example, i don't care about assasins, izi lane (Unless is the Fish