Top lane has been ruined by conqueror, advice please

LeatherfaceTom·Jan 25, 2019·2 votes·1,390 views

Okay, so I mainly play Top lane and sometimes jungle, usually going for tanky champs like Shen, Urgot, Olaf and Poppy, but Conqueror has completely destroyed top lane. It doesn't matter who I am against, if they have Conqueror, I'm at a disadvantage. Over my last 20 games played, every single top lane game I have lost, the enemy had Conqueror, every single one. Darius/Garen, annoying but you can kite them and tank their damage, but if they take Conqueror, no matter how much HP and armor I have, they will win. Irelia and Riven, same issue, except this time, they can have less than 1k hp, and still shred me to nothing even though I have 3k health. The stats of Conqueror don't look like much on paper, but you cant actually counter true dmg so even if you do more damage, you lose because theirs is true damage.

So, any advice? How do you win against Conqueror without taking it yourself? It's stupid that the game forces me to take Runes I hate just to have a fair chance. You may think I'm being a noob here, but that's why I am asking for help, I really have no idea how to win against Conqueror.

10 Comments

SuicidePlankJan 25, 20192 votes

but you cant actually counter true dmg

You can, buy HP. The real fun begins against %HP True Damage. Fiora Vayne

JungleChopperJan 25, 20191 votes

No wonder I hate vayne lol I should learn what she does

The thigh guyJan 25, 20191 votes

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You can, buy HP. The real fun begins against %HP True Damage.

Buying hp doesn’t work, because then you take the full brunt on the normal damage. But if you but resistances you take more true damage. But if you buy more hp you take more normal damage.

It’s a lose lose circle that only gets worse. I mean I guess if you stack one resistance you could survive just that type. Except % pen.

Critmaster GarenJan 25, 20192 votes

how many garens have you actually seen with conqueror?

our main runes are grasp and phase rush. predator sometimes for mid lane, and glacial augment into rare matchups like Kayle Vladimir .

i tried conqueror on garen in the past. its not really great.

xDogMeatxJan 25, 20191 votes

only things that can beat %true damage is lower attack or kill the source or finally regen is back.

xDogMeatxJan 25, 20191 votes

if your target is a true damage user u can play nasus or tank teemo for lols or fizz mainly fizz vs fiora you will find its a evenish yet fun matchup

MLDzXnRRRJan 25, 20191 votes

Conqueror's damage conversion is actually somewhat low unless you deal insane dmg (Yasuo, because of his criticals and Q spam) or fight like braindead all the time - very rarely happens in a real game. I personally think tht Poppy is overtuned in terms of damage output with full tank items, no dmg, but can't really say, if I'm right. Irelia should lose to Poppy or Shen, or Olaf until lategame (maybe even lategame, if you are better than her), you are doing something wrong. Darius can be annoying, especially with trinity force, if he is fed.

haaaaaaalpJan 25, 20191 votes

If you play Olaf, go comet and Rush essence reaver into full ad (some combination of tforce, death dance, streak, ga, bortk, or ghost blade, you aren’t really suppose to think about it too hard). Is it a good build. Not really but you absolutely destroy most melee conqueror users top lane before conqueror even procs.

SasogwaJan 25, 20191 votes

Keep playing Urgot and destroy people, he's still godlike tier and the nerfs were a joke.

kingDeDeDariusJan 25, 20191 votes

I agree with OP, I'm forced as darius to take conquerors even though it has less synergy with kit (besides bleed keeping it stacked) than most kits because it barely helps ukt and with all the armor pen, his has smaller marginal returns. Yet I have to take it to remain competitive most games.