How to report someone who doesn't actually fit the criteria Riot sets out for reports.

LeatherfaceTom·Jan 12, 2019·3 votes·6,411 views

Okay, so I thought i'd try and gather information about something I dont quite understand. I played a game yesterday, in which I was top Aatrox, but my ADC bans my Aatrox, then locks in Singed. He then proceeds to follow me all around the game, stealing all my farm and causing the supp go 2v1 in the bottom lane. I kid you not, he followed me everywhere, no matter where I went. This really aggrevated me but we pressed on, with this Singed actually getting a fair few kills, he wasn't feeding. We ended up losing the game, with my score being abmissmal with basically no farm.

So, I wanted to report this individual for effectively ruining my game, but then I was unsure which thing to report him for. Banning my champ on purpose is annoying, but you cant report that under the options given, following me around all game and stealing my farm, again, cant really report for that either, and putting a comment in the report seems useless as its a computer that checks out the vailidity. So, what would you do? How do you report this clearly negative behavior, that doesn't actually fit a reportable criteria.

30 Comments

R107 GamesJan 12, 20194 votes

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So, I wanted to report this individual for effectively ruining my game, but then I was unsure which thing to report him for.

Report him for trolling/griefing.

Banning my champ on purpose is annoying, but you cant report that under the options given,

Correct. he can't get punished for that unless he says he banned your champ on purpose in chat.

following me around all game and stealing my farm, again, cant really report for that either,

Yes you can. Report for trolling/griefing.

and putting a comment in the report seems useless as its a computer that checks out the vailidity.

Not always. Reports for trolling/inting are sometimes met with manual reviews.

So, what would you do? How do you report this clearly negative behavior, that doesn't actually fit a reportable criteria.

It fits in trolling/griefing, does it not? Maybe you can also try sending a support ticket to describe his behavior.

LeatherfaceTomJan 12, 20193 votes

I did end up reporting him for greifing as I felt that was my only choice. He didnt say a single word all game and becuase he didn't feed, I assumed he wouldn't get any reprocussions for his actions, even though they were clearly trying to irritate me. Thank you for the reply.

ModKnightsKemplarJan 12, 20192 votes

Griefing can be non-verbal. It is textbook griefing.

It may take more than one report for that individual to be caught; that's the unfortunate way the system works, mostly because it's incredibly high volume, but you did the right thing.

DiatcheJan 13, 20192 votes

This is the message I needed to read, thank you (:

Tzuyu Is My BiasJan 13, 20191 votes

As far as I know, one report should be enough to flag the player for the system. I believe a Rioter has said this before in a red comment, that multiple reports do no difference. I cannot confirm this though since I don't remember the post I read that in.

G2Λ TsTyJan 12, 20191 votes

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Report him for trolling/griefing.

Correct. he can't get punished for that unless he says he banned your champ on purpose in chat.

Yes you can. Report for trolling/griefing.

Not always. Reports for trolling/inting are sometimes met with manual reviews.

It fits in trolling/griefing, does it not? Maybe you can also try sending a support ticket to describe his behavior.

Haha, sent "report" ticket once, they said that they can't do anything about it ;))

TrulyBlandJan 12, 20191 votes

I've read a lot of ticket replies to such reports, and given that it's clearly a copy-paste template that is hardly ever altered, it seems really unlikely that they said that. Could it be that's just how you interpreted it? I don't mean any offence, but the I've seen a lot of people on the forums somehow read that (or something similar) into the reply.

G2Λ TsTyJan 12, 20191 votes

Yea, basically some copy-pasted stuff saying they can't do anything with it, because they have their "working" report system :)

But that was probably like.. 2 years ago or even more so chances are they changed it :)

Report Is 4 KidsJan 13, 20193 votes

or you could not report people so much lmao its one of the big problems with the game atm that breeds a lot of trolls, censorship

Telephone BoothJan 15, 20192 votes

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or you could not report people so much lmao its one of the big problems with the game atm that breeds a lot of trolls, censorship

Fuck that. You dont care about trolls? Wtf does censorship have to do with reporting a troll? You didnt even read the post did you? Trolls, griefers, inters ruin this game. So why wouldnt he report one? You wouldnt mind a singed following you everywhere just to fuck with you?

ooººStØrMººooJan 12, 20192 votes

They won't do anything, because he didn't feed, and if he doesn't says anything, this system won't punish him. All you have to do to evade the punish system is not to say a single thing, play and not feed in purpose ;). Welcome to Riot's perfect justice system lol.

Imperial PandaaJan 12, 20192 votes

Because obviously the cases on the boards for non verbal things are all lies and paid people to make an illusion?

ooººStØrMººooJan 12, 20191 votes

So fun man, i am just describing the case the OP was giving details about. I've saw so many trolls in this game, do that exactly. They ban your champ (not reportable), they do not feed (not reportable), they don't harass or insult or spam toxic in chat (not reportable). In fact, if he reports him, it might be labeled as a false report and he gets punished instead. I saw this happen, trust me ;)

LeatherfaceTomJan 12, 20193 votes

I did worry about the false reports to be honest, and I really don't think he will be punished. Thank you for your comment.

TrulyBlandJan 12, 20191 votes

Riot has never punished people for false reporting. The only thing that could even remotely be misconstrued as such was one single banwave where they specifically targeted people who submitted false reports, but still only banned them if they recently exhibited punishable behaviour.

Also, just because somebody doesn't feed doesn't mean they won't get punished. Griefing of any kind is punishable, intentionally feeding is just the most common form of it and is (to answer OP's question) precisely what you should report them for if they do other shit that is meant to sabotage you or the game as a whole. That said, if it's something really difficult to detect automatically, a support ticket might be more helpful, even if still not a guarantee.

The only thing you have said correctly is that banning your champ is not reportable, because they could have legitimate reasons. If they confirm they do not and that they are only doing it to piss you off, on the other hand, they at the very least open themselves up to a chat-based punishment.

Telephone BoothJan 15, 20191 votes

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So fun man, i am just describing the case the OP was giving details about. I've saw so many trolls in this game, do that exactly. They ban your champ (not reportable), they do not feed (not reportable), they don't harass or insult or spam toxic in chat (not reportable). In fact, if he reports him, it might be labeled as a false report and he gets punished instead. I saw this happen, trust me ;)

Lmao. No. You dont get punished for falsely reporting.

LeatherfaceTomJan 12, 20192 votes

This was my issue, he didnt actaully play badly, but his actions did negatively affect my game

ooººStØrMººooJan 12, 20191 votes

Yes, and then if you retaliate (like me) you get punished. After having more than 80% positive honor votes during this past moths, one single game, where i wasn't really toxic in my language (my post is around the board with the chatlog). I've got punished with 10 game chat restriction then my honor reset to 0. That was like a bullet in my chest, after all the hard work it takes to grind honor. Makes me wonder if i shouldn't troll around just the same way these trolls do, until making Riot realize their system stinks and they reactivate the Tribunal for example. Anyways, my recommendation after reading all the fanbois in this boards, just don't say a damn thing in chat and all will be all right.

GatekeeperTDSJan 12, 20192 votes

He won't get punished for banning your pick intent. Anyone can ban any champion they want for any reason. The rest, though, is griefing. His actions directly affected the outcome of the game, report him for that.

LeatherfaceTomJan 12, 20191 votes

Thing is though, he didn't feed or say anything at all, so the system isn't going to recognise that he followed me around, stole my farm and did all he could to ruin my experience is it? I mean, isnt the system designed to just check KDA, chat comments and if the person was AFK? It surely won't recognise him following me around causing his lane to lose?

GatekeeperTDSJan 12, 20192 votes

The system may not recognize those specific actions, but it will trigger him for review if he receives a lot of reports for the same thing.

ı Sona ıJan 12, 20191 votes

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Thing is though, he didn't feed or say anything at all, so the system isn't going to recognise that he followed me around, stole my farm and did all he could to ruin my experience is it? I mean, isnt the system designed to just check KDA, chat comments and if the person was AFK? It surely won't recognise him following me around causing his lane to lose?

This player fits the criteria perfectly.

Find the match history link, get the players name, and report him directly via ticket, being unemotional but descriptive as you do so.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/2JKNUqT2-do-not-be-afraid-to-report-through-tickets-riot-support-cares-and-hears-you-proof

Telephone BoothJan 15, 20192 votes

Report for griefing. Make the report as detailed as possible. Try to max out the characters to the limit in detail.

Best Vi EarthJan 12, 20191 votes

if you feel like theres nothing to report for just report them under the closest thing/ things. make sure you leave a comment. then if you have the video you can send it to riot support. https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new . again make sure you leave detailed information

SEKAIJan 12, 20191 votes

Sometimes you have to report them via the support ticket which wastes your time just because there is not a single category fitting for it (such as offensive clan tag).

Riot really should add a few more categories into the reporting system. I shouldn't be punished by having my time wasted just to report something that should already be on the list.

The Highest NoonJan 12, 20191 votes

When you play [Draft] you accept the responsibility of adhering to a certain play style. If the Support is not Supporting (through no prior conversation with the team about the decision) and not only that is actively griefing, that falls under...well, griefing. And griefing is an offense listed.

RigaroomJan 13, 20191 votes

Manual ticket report, since Riot report isn't perfect.

DNFVixenJan 13, 20191 votes

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Okay, so I thought i'd try and gather information about something I dont quite understand. I played a game yesterday, in which I was top Aatrox, but my ADC bans my Aatrox, then locks in Singed. He then proceeds to follow me all around the game, stealing all my farm and causing the supp go 2v1 in the bottom lane. I kid you not, he followed me everywhere, no matter where I went. This really aggrevated me but we pressed on, with this Singed actually getting a fair few kills, he wasn't feeding. We ended up losing the game, with my score being abmissmal with basically no farm.

So, I wanted to report this individual for effectively ruining my game, but then I was unsure which thing to report him for. Banning my champ on purpose is annoying, but you cant report that under the options given, following me around all game and stealing my farm, again, cant really report for that either, and putting a comment in the report seems useless as its a computer that checks out the vailidity. So, what would you do? How do you report this clearly negative behavior, that doesn't actually fit a reportable criteria.

support ticket to report.

Tempest AngelFeb 3, 20191 votes

Reporting doesn't do anything anyways, it's just a way for you to think that they are getting what they deserve even though nothing will happen, even if 9/10 players report. I had a game where a person bans my pick then uses tons of slurs and stuff in pre-game chat before ignoring the team and farming up top the whole game, reported it but I know that it won't actually do anything. The report system is poorly designed.