Either? Lmao no, both need to go.

People talking about damage or cc needing a nerf. Nah fam both need to get hit by a massive nerf truck right in the middle of Highway 19. A lot of posts about damage are being made, everyone has seen and read them and I agree with most of what is said, not much else to add on, we are literally being one-shotted by champs that shouldn't one shot. Its much too easy for certain support champs to simply buy an AP item, walk up to any champ that hasn't bought health yet, and proceed with their full combo + Ignite to snowball before its even 8 mins. The amount of times i've seen myself die so fast with zero counterplay, then look up to notice is like 9:34 in the game I just sit back tilted, its pretty much impossible to keep a clear head and focus in a match where I could die at any second around any corner. Wards just got nerfed by a whole minute and you can only have one control ward down, try having any vision in a silver match while roaming, just kidding there isnt any vision its silver.

Now enough about damage, we all know its absolute cancer and is hopefully being nerfed, even with some words by Riot saying 9.2 is going to have some systemic damage nerfs, (conq, smite, ignite getting nerfed), etc. I barely believe it atm. Not enough trust can be put between player and developer when this aids has been going on for this long.

I want to give my idea for cc. Has definitely been thought about before, and I swear I played a game that has this system and it was really nice, cant remember what game it was, but It worked. Stacking. Tenacity. For the love of god it would make me actually play this game even with this cancer TDM meta. Get hit by a brand stun? No tenacity, it was only one stun. Brand stun? And then the Elise jungle hits you with her stun right after? Stacking tenacity should give whatever number we feel is comfortable and balanced. 5%? 10%? 15%? To reduce the duration of the second stun, any roots, silences, etc after will continue building that percent up. Buff should last only like 1 sec to 1,5 secs I feel so that you aren't just a walking Garen at all times.

Might seem OP, but everything sounds bloody OP to the community on paper until its been PBE tested and we can get some real results. I personally think its a decent idea considering we have both one shotting and 3 second long combined stuns in the game. We have what, almost 200 champs now? There are many options to build a comp with heavy cc. Only having merc treads as a tenacity item doesn't do much, should either have more items that give us tenacity, or allow us to have a stacking buff where we can at least even attempt to survive getting stunned. It shouldn't be a confirmed kill because the enemy landed a stun that's on a 10 sec or less cd and our flashes go on a 3 min one.