How to fix ADCs abusing fighter / assassin items without gutting any of them

Xeruon·5/29/2016, 12:27:42 AM·3 votes·1,008 views

Melee Only Active Boost reduced for ranged champions Melee Only

To compensate:

Crit Chance: ~~20%~~ => 30% Unique: CDR ~~10%~~ => 15% Unique: Firecannon Range Increase ~~35%~~ => 45%, Cap ~~135~~ => 150

Boom. That simple. Now ADCs wont be abusing, and causng to get gutted, won't be a viable option anymore for them (like it should be), and won't be quite unviable on them. While their normal core items are a less shitty replacement.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

27 Comments

Defended5/29/2016, 12:29:44 AM3 votes

Or you can just nerf the only 3 adcs abusing the items

Lucian kindred graves

Sir Hammerlock5/29/2016, 1:03:08 AM2 votes

I found out recently that Sivir with item 3071 and item 3508 is a deadly combo. Just building Essence, Shyv and Cleaver she has 40% cdr, shreds armour like nobodies business and deals insane team-wide damage.

dim2a5/29/2016, 1:19:04 AM2 votes

So that adc have only one "correct" path? No thanks, I'd rather enjoy some build diversity/situational builds.

If those items are good on just a few champions, well deal with those. I'd rather not restrict more items without a very good reason, and this is not a very good reason. If an item is specifically better on ranged (for example old rageblade), sure, can cut ranged benefit. But if ranged champions can buy it sometimes, and it's decent on them (none of those items are super OP on ranged, we don't see them on ADCs most of the time)? I don't see a problem.

Caítlyn5/29/2016, 12:30:51 AM1 votes

"Abusing"? So its ADCs fault that traditional ADC items suck so they are using bruiser items with moderate success?

There is nothing wrong with build diversity. In fact it should be encouraged.

Darkslayer855/29/2016, 1:39:17 AM1 votes

And then we can have our melees abuse our ranged items! What a wonderful cycle.

ProfDrDeath5/29/2016, 8:29:40 AM1 votes

item 3071 will not be melee only. Why should it be? Save for Lucian, who can get it as a second item to fuel his high AD ratios and low cooldowns, none of the ADCs are really abusing it - merely using it for its intended effect (dealing with enemy Armor). If those other ADCs get it, they get it instead of a Last Whisper upgrade.

Lucian abuses Black Cleaver due to his passive counting as two seperate instances of physical, allowing for a lot faster stacking. Remember, back in patch 3.9, Cleaver was changed to never apply more than one stack at a single basic attack, due to people with physical on-hit effects like JarvanIV being able to apply the stacks too fast. Also, while he build Essence Reaver before the new build, he never required Essence Reaver's mana sustain - Lucian is far less restricted by mana compared to the other ADCs. That is why other ADCs like Sivir cannot use the Ghostcleaver build as well.