Please delete Sylas, or redo him

MiracleMorg94··13 votes·2,569 views

Let's try this again without offending the mods (not explaining why, too long).

I am asking for a deletion of a champ that shouldn't be allowed to make it to live game. Sylas. Not only does he have an overloaded kit with mind boggling numbers, he has an ult that is an unbalanceable nightmare.

Giving a champ the ability to steal others is a line you should have never crossed with a champ.

It's basically uncounterable since it's point and click, on top of a high damage ratio and gives him the ult at tier 3, not tier 1. I just don't see how people can defend against this.

The champs up until now were made with their ults to suit them the best way. Now we have to get our own ult taken away and used against us, which takes the fun out of the game and takes away from the champion we play as well. Makes them look small and- can't describe this the way I'm thinking in my head- but just that it takes away something special from a champion.

I get that you worked hard on him. You made all the cool background images, the trailers, art work, SFX, etc. Just take him back to the drawing board and give him something else, please.

I'll even deal with his overpowered heal and multiple dashes. Just give him another ultimate.

I'm trying to save myself and others a lot of frustrating and LP, that's all.

If you read this Riot, please take my thoughts into consideration.

Thank you.

21 Comments

Hotarµ5 votes

I love how much thought and time people put into making posts like these but won't let the champions hit live before coming to conclusions.

Sylas has one of the most tame kits to come out in a long time. His one unique property is his spell-thief ultimate and even that has it's power gated by the fact that he won't be tanky and he's fairly immobile.

Just give it time.

MiracleMorg943 votes

This champ shouldn't hit live because of his kit, which is not tame in the slightest. It's overloaded on top of mind boggling abilities.

Sure he won't be tanky but he has multiple dashes, a shield and a heal that gets stronger the lower health you are (if I remember right).

Hotarµ3 votes

Ah yes, "mind boggling" abilities such as an AOE basic attack, an X skillshot with a small AOE explosion, a small dash with a heal, and a shielded dash with a pull. Unheard of.

He also has two dashes that can only be used to go towards enemy champions. So he's not tanky and his two mobility spells are to put himself further into danger. His heal can be countered completely by GW.

Binding Eclipse2 votes

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Ah yes, "mind boggling" abilities such as an AOE basic attack, an X skillshot with a small AOE explosion, a small dash with a heal, and a shielded dash with a pull. Unheard of.

He also has two dashes that can only be used to go towards enemy champions. So he's not tanky and his two mobility spells are to put himself further into danger. His heal can be countered completely by GW.

Don't bring logic into this thread, there are better ways to waste time than that my friend.

Baron Barian4 votes

He hasn't even hit the live severs yet.

Hell, Dota has hero with a very similar ability and he's well loved there.

MiracleMorg943 votes

If I remember right, the Dota champ can only steal the recent ability used. The player has to strategically use the ability to get the best one he can.

Sylas is just point and click with a huge ratio and no counterplay.

They are different.

WeeningWeiners3 votes

Thank god for the guy with a brain telling this guy the truth. And the Hero's name is Rubick and in Dota 2 there is no real ability scaling which means he is even more balanced than sylas which takes ults and uses his stats instead of the enemies lol just take Karthus ult and use it better than he could. Riot made another borken design that is on purpose because everyone hates this item 3153 meta so yeah please riot fix your game or quit making champs and actually try to balance the ratios and percent health dmg. BORK IS SUPER BUSTED...

Dr Dog3 votes

i gotta agree with him needing to just be redone, hes gonna be another champion like galio or azir that are so broken in pro play that they stay perma gutted because of their ult, on top of his base kit most likely getting a gutting so it isnt so oppressive

Binding Eclipse2 votes

The Teemo thing is kind of stupid to worry over. He steals your ult, so you know exactly what he's going to do with it. You get a sweeper if you can't help but walk into them because you aren't paying attention, just as you would do if you were facing Teemo yourself. This isn't a difficult concept, so quit the mental gymnastics for the sake of dramatics.

Teémò1 votes

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The Teemo thing is kind of stupid to worry over. He steals your ult, so you know exactly what he's going to do with it. You get a sweeper if you can't help but walk into them because you aren't paying attention, just as you would do if you were facing Teemo yourself. This isn't a difficult concept, so quit the mental gymnastics for the sake of dramatics.

So your only criticism is that teemo should buy a trinket and git gud. Not even acknowledging if sylas is to be played in that lane or the idea of him having a neeko ultimate. It seems more like your dancing around truth and accepting only the ideal circumstance than accepting just how much abilty and utility it is he has not being chained to only one characters ultimate and not knowing if he has someone's ultimate in solo queue like a Galio. It has nothing to do with countering just one form of his ultimate because to use it effectively he'll need to roam and unless he's an ape that's what he's to do. And oh boy what a mind hell it is to think your TwistedFate Galio coming to save ur butt only for him to appear. Or a random Gangplank ult that has ap scaling in it giving it more damage than a regular gangplank ult. Oh did u forget its rank 3? Flex tape can't heal that major damage burst from anywhere on the map.

Paroe2 votes

Sylas is strong but... Hes a weaker Camille. While his kit IS very similar to camille, unlike that monster, Sylas is almost entirely skillshots and he has cooldowns that actually matter.

Hes probably going to fill the same niche as master yi does; function extremely well at low ELO where he cant be stopped. In upper ELOs the sheer fact that sylas is 100%AP with no physical damage in his kit means that he can be effectively itemized against and will not be forever ahead like Camille and blue Kayne.

Agent Corgi1 votes

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Sylas is strong but... Hes a weaker Camille. While his kit IS very similar to camille, unlike that monster, Sylas is almost entirely skillshots and he has cooldowns that actually matter.

After playing Sylas on PBE, he actually does feel similar to Camille. They both have alot of ways to stick to targets, however Camille has a tad more power than Sylas does.

Honestly, I'd say he's a combination of Camille & Riven (I say riven because of how similar their passives are to one another).

Paroe1 votes

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After playing Sylas on PBE, he actually does feel similar to Camille. They both have alot of ways to stick to targets, however Camille has a tad more power than Sylas does.

Honestly, I'd say he's a combination of Camille & Riven (I say riven because of how similar their passives are to one another).

Thats the consensus amongst my friends too. By virtue of him being AP and lacking the very strong bruiser options that AD champions have hes already much more vulnerable than camille, and his damage is even gated by cooldowns.

On the PBE i was fighting against a sylas as Darius and while Sylas was very far ahead... I got a visage and i could duel him at all stages of the game because i could survive his burst while cutting down his healing.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

You're overreacting. He just needs his numbers lowered.

His kit is not overloaded.

Teémò1 votes

I'm fine with ditto clones, because the better player would win, but not only does it give the player an edge having a level 3 ult it also is designed to scrutinize enemy players. Where abilities you'd consider your team mates aren't. Like if I'm to play Teemo he gets 3 shrooms and can produce more mushrooms with his ult cooldown than a teemo can. Some ultimates have a super long cooldowns for a reason.

riot forbit he runs into Neeko and gets a level 3 ultimate.

MiracleMorg942 votes

Oi just reading that I'm like EEKKKK.

Yeah I wouldn't want to be in a game with Sylas and those two. Oh boy!

Beerstein1 votes

People complaining about teemo, wait til he amumu ults your entire team xD

MiracleMorg941 votes

Oh ewwwww

[sg-ahri-3]

Sukishoo1 votes

Actually it can be countered. It is point and click but at the same time causes a projectile to be released that has to connect to the target. So a windwall could cancel it. A well timed item 3157 or item 2419 . There are a few things out there.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

QQ about a champion that isn't even on live... how am I not surprised

WIZARDMEDO021 votes

Play with Captin teedo baby I melt him Teemo and use this build itemitem 3146 item 3151 item 3111 item 3089 item 3115 item 3285 he will definitely melt

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