So me and my friend (Justelectrify) were playing a game as Blitz and Jinx. We were vs. a Tristana and Leona, the usual routine I pull them in Jinx E's they get snared, free kill. But, after Trist got snared she just W'ed back to turret WHILE still snared! Me and my friend were so confused and thought while snare you shouldn't be able to move at all. that is our story and thoughts thanks for reading and tell em what you think.
-Justcallmedon
The Sword Saint1 votesIf the snare hit her while she was jumping then the jump will finish and she'll be snared when she lands (though the timer for the snare duration will continue to decrease while she's jumping). That's how movement abilities have always worked. Only a displacement like a knockup or a knockback can stop a movement ability that has already started from finishing.
NoMonku1 votesYes, the only way to actually stop Tristana's W is to hook her mid jump or hit her with your E(as Blitz). She has ALWAYS worked this way an every other movement ability does as well. The only things that immediately stop a movement ability are knockups, knockbacks, and Veigars E.
Lugg1 votesTris jump completely negates Blitz's grab. You can actually land the hook and she can still jump away. Blitz's arm will stretch the entire distance, but won't pull her in. I've had this happen dozens of times and Riot says it's intended. Just like Ezreal's flash ability.
NoMonku1 votesi'm talking about landing it AFTER she has already jumped. Her jump works similar to Ez E in how he blinks away. As long as they cast the ability before the hook landed they can get away.
Lugg1 votesHow do you explain then Blitz's arm being stretched all the way to where she lands? It's because I hit the skillshot BEFORE she jumped but she still jumps away. That's why his arm gets stretched out.
I did a bug report to Riot and they said that is the way they intended it. WTF kind of BS is that.
NoMonku1 votesYou are making it sound like RIOT did this unintentionally. This is the way the skill WORKS. It is supposed to interact like this. The only suggestions I can give you are to start coping with it, because it isn't going to be changed or to quit the game if its that heart breaking for you.
Lugg1 votesLet's put it in perspective. Let's say you are a Darius main. You use Apprehend on Tris, but she still jumps away. Wouldn't you be thinking, this is some BS.
I see that you play Tris a lot and don't want her nerfed. I have no problem with Tris jumping away BEFORE I hit my grab, but being able to do it AFTER my grab has landed is what I think is unfair. I apply the same logic to Ezreal and his flash. That's all I'm saying.
NoMonku1 votesI'm not saying its BS, just saying its how it is. I'm technically fine w/ it because of how lane dominant Blitz can be. Ez/Trist are able to "counter" his hook because their jumps have a slight delay.
Also I'm fine w/ Trist getting nerfed because I haven't loved her since she got reworked.
Lugg1 votesAny champion with resets is inherently broken.
Radnar the bold1 votesGP can eat an organe and get out of a snare/stun......some champs are able to escape these things.
wÏll1 votesYeah if you read the description of his W it says that it removes all forms of CC. I think you have the purpose confused from Tristana's W...
Radnar the bold1 votesYeah if you read the description of his W it says that it removes all forms of CC. I think you have the purpose confused from Tristana's W...
Im just saying she can jump away if time right, the only thing that can stop the jump is a hook from blitz or thresh. The rest will just effect her when she lands.
Masked Lunatic1 votesOr a Voli using an expertly timed q. But yeah trist's w (her jump) has a animation duration similar to aatrox's q which means cc that hits mid animation (with trist this includes the huge windup time) only take effect after the jump is completed.
Radnar the bold1 votes[{quoted}](name=Masked Lunatic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vLBNgBr8,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-06T17:55:47.081+0000)
Or a Voli using an expertly timed q. But yeah trist's w (her jump) has a animation duration similar to aatrox's q which means cc that hits mid animation (with trist this includes the huge windup time) only take effect after the jump is completed.
Yep I was about to say Aatrox as well, both have the same things, but some CC effects will stop him before he jumps, while others happen after the jump, just like trist.
Masked Lunatic1 votesThe only cc that does that (which affects trist's jump too might i add) is displacement / knockup because their effectiveness is instant and unable to be countered (the stun associated with it can be cleansed which is rather amusing).
Radnar the bold1 votes[{quoted}](name=Masked Lunatic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vLBNgBr8,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-06T19:54:36.926+0000)
The only cc that does that (which affects trist's jump too might i add) is displacement / knockup because their effectiveness is instant and unable to be countered (the stun associated with it can be cleansed which is rather amusing).
True, any knockup can efffect any jumping ability aka Gnar jump, trist jump, aatroz jump, Idk about the jax, and has to be timed well on rengars. are there any other jumping champs? I can only think of those
Xantak1 votes[{quoted}](name=Radnar the bold,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vLBNgBr8,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-06T19:57:00.989+0000)
True, any knockup can efffect any jumping ability aka Gnar jump, trist jump, aatroz jump, Idk about the jax, and has to be timed well on rengars. are there any other jumping champs? I can only think of those
Shyvana has a jump, as does Kha'zix, Jarvan IV. Not sure if you want to count Gragas' belly slam, Jayce's leap with his hammer, Riven's hop, Hecarim has a jump, as does Nidalee with her pounce, or Alistar with his Headbutt. Maybe Malphite's ultimate? Maybe Elise's mini hop in spider form at a target(not her Rappel move). Darius has a jump with his ultimate.
HeeroTX1 votes[{quoted}](name=Radnar the bold,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vLBNgBr8,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-06T19:57:00.989+0000)
True, any knockup can efffect any jumping ability aka Gnar jump, trist jump, aatroz jump, Idk about the jax, and has to be timed well on rengars. are there any other jumping champs? I can only think of those
I dunno if you only meant "knockup" or were including knockback, but I can say that knockback will definitely affect Jax's jump. A Jax and I got a good laugh when the ONLY highlight for me in a game where we got annihilated was popping Jax in the face with Tristana's ult at just the right moment as he was jumping towards me. It didn't kill him but it shoved him off and let me run.
Voidgolem1 votesspaghetti code is strong with blitz. Champions with blinks/dashes can break hook if they cast them at the right time.
that being said, with the amount of things that do break rocket jump trist probably deserves a bye in this one specific instance.
Lugg1 votesThe Trundle Ice Pillar is the only thing I have ever seen break Tris' jump. What other abilities work?
Voidgolem1 votesThe Trundle Ice Pillar is the only thing I have ever seen break Tris' jump. What other abilities work?
Every single knockup and knockback. Thresh hooks. Pretty sure Tahm can eat her mid-jump.
Lugg1 votesI know for a fact the Blitz hook doesn't work. That seems unfair if the Thresh hook works and Blitzs doesn't.
Masked Lunatic1 votesBlitz's grab does but only mid jump. Same goes for voli q (i love it when trist just manages to get off the ground when voli just goes nope and throws her back)
Lugg1 votesThat's what I don't understand. Every other champs abilities work on her, but not Blitz's.
HeeroTX1 votesHis uppercut does. And all the grabs depend on timing. ie. sometimes they do, sometimes they don't depends on who hit what first and at what stage. And if you're saying Ice Pillar is the only thing you've seen break it, then you haven't seen many jumps. Alistar, Vi, Thresh, Lee, ... that's just recent memory. Like VoidGolem said, ANY knockup/knockback will break it, if you haven't done so with Blitz (ever) that's just bad timing.
Lugg1 votesI agree, her jump gets her out of a lot of abilities in the game. Good luck ever hooking her with Blitz.
ProfDrDeath1 votesTristana hook is a dash that has a cast time beforehand. If you displace her during this cast time, the ability will still go, and supersede the displacement.
Rabid Husky1 votesthats just movement man ive had people jump/dash over and through many caitlyn and jinx snares i put down hell if ez times it right he negates blitz pull
really, reaaaally annoying with his 1ko pull of death.
im sorry i can't have sympathy with your "free kill" not working this time