I.. already don't like facing Senna

Mighty Mortein·11/11/2019, 4:38:22 AM·29 votes·13,231 views

I'm not here to whine too much, but she feels.. so unfun to play against. Her Q hurts a lot, her root skillshot thingy is deceptive too. I'm tired of seeing stealth "supports" and supports that build lethality and stomp. I'm sure she'll probably get nerfed soon but I already just wanna permaban her until that happens.

Plus if she's doing well as support, well there's two priority targets already. A fed adc and a fed support.

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DuskDaUmbreon11/11/2019, 5:17:37 AM24 votes

Plus if she's doing well as support, well there's two priority targets already. A fed adc and a fed support.

Isn't that exactly how it is with every squishy support?

Like, correct me if I'm wrong, but Soraka is always a priority target, and generally should be the first champion you try to kill. Janna and Sona tend to also be very high priority. Lulu as well.

They're priority for a different reason, but they're still priority.

Smyrage11/11/2019, 5:47:00 PM10 votes

Seeing Senna complaints just make me think that people just don't even try to counter champions. Her weaknesses are quite clear:

  • extremely sluggish -> therefore she is easy to catch
  • AA makes her immobile -> therefore she is easy to catch
  • squishy

Her counters include (not complete list): Blitzcrank Thresh Rakan Zyra Nami Alistar Leona Pyke

She isn't the first support, who can dish out more damage than the ADC. Right guys? Zyra Bard Sona Nami Lux

Hügö11/11/2019, 5:31:55 PM10 votes

but she feels.. so unfun to play against.

So the design team accomplished their goal.

KS King Kench11/11/2019, 5:12:25 AM9 votes

i didnt even build her lethality... i built pure supp items and did well... although i do feel like she was doing just a tad too much dmg without any dmg items

i wouldnt mind a little dmg nerf but i think she plays really well

p3tm4ster11/11/2019, 5:36:56 AM6 votes

She's at the top of my permaban list now, because she's broken af.

Mahoh11/11/2019, 5:05:03 AM5 votes

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Żügżwäng11/11/2019, 5:20:21 AM5 votes

I faced her today in lane and didnt find her too over the top, but then I had a senna support who actually outdamaged me (on jhin), and I was doing a lot that game. I don't know why she needs a global ult, at least with the damage portion, they could have made it like an umbra/penumbra, where the umbra cone (perhaps lux length) does damage, and after that, the penumbra (surrounding part) does the heal/shield. Her stun does feel very lengthy. These are just some initial thoughts, since for now she feels ok (I'm around Gold), but of course we need to see how she performs at the top level.

FSRER11/11/2019, 2:42:26 PM5 votes

I was backing at Toplane tower after winning a 1v2. Enemy Senna ulted me from enemy spawn and I died because that beam for a global ults casts way too fast...10/10 interactive gameplay

Pika Fox11/11/2019, 8:41:51 PM4 votes

No one likes seeing anyone on the enemy team.... I dont see how this is an argument.

Shes an offensive support. Shes also extremely squishy and dies as fast, if not faster than, an adc. Thresh, ali, leona.... Anyone that can lock her down just completely steamroll her.

Packun Flower11/11/2019, 3:28:08 PM4 votes

Kinda off topic but not really.

Does anyone else lag when Senna ults?

My friends and I were vs a Senna last night and even players on the enemy team noticed that when Senna ults their ping shot up to 800+ for about 2 to 3 seconds before going back down. It was ONLY when Senna ulted though and it didn't matter where she was on the map.

Vlada Cut11/11/2019, 8:39:10 PM4 votes

Her being able to hit turrets with her Q is too much.

Either let Lucian's Q hit the same way or remove it.

Also, just wait and see till Senna becomes new Karma and Kayle on top lane with Kleptomancy, her Q actually procs One Klepto stack.

Tr4shB4NSYST3M11/11/2019, 5:42:16 PM3 votes

These season 9 champion kits are really something else. What is power budget am i right? Lol. What concerns me is that the senna's I've seen so far have all done pretty decently, good dmg #s solid poke decent kdas noticeably helping their teammates escape from sticky situations w/ the E. And this is on release day. Once people get the hang of playing the champion optimally she is going to be an absolute menace.

Emperør Rhaast11/12/2019, 8:11:06 AM3 votes

Recently, I had a senna obliterate me while I was playing assassin Kayn. I was fed. She only had 5 kills. I hit her with a full combo and she still killed me before I could kill her. Isn't league of legends fun?

Grumpig11/11/2019, 2:38:47 PM2 votes

I played bot lane in blinds so i could learn how to play against her. I actually think shes pretty solid. I think her base damage needs to be lowered to compensate for her crazy damage. She can just put damage on every adc except maybe ezreal and caitlyn. I think her ult was completely over hyped, its good but I dont think its as broken as everyoen thought it was gonna be. I dont have any problems with her sheild and root, but her stealth is a little overpowered. I think it needs to be treated like pyke for the allys inside the invis. Its like a mobile akali shroud but for everyone. overall she seems like your tipical overtunned release character riot does.

l love Ahri11/11/2019, 11:58:44 PM2 votes

She literally feels like Morgana, but more damage. Ouch

They are doing whatever they can to convert people to supports. First Pyke and now this.

GankLord11/12/2019, 12:32:48 AM2 votes

And as I said before that's the problem with champions like Senna because if you nerf her even slightly she'll be too weak and she won't be able to deliver on her role as a Marksman. However, if she's too strong she can't be considered a support anymore.

xxdankspamxx11/12/2019, 2:28:39 AM2 votes

Completely agree

Not so much as her numbers or counters but more about her design philosophy.

A support marksman that has infinite scaling that both does a shit ton of damage, but also has a lane-wide ultimate, aoe stealth and root and a semi reliable damage/healing ability.

At this point I’m questioning Riot competency in terms of reworks and new releases. Ryze gutted into a EQ EQ noob-friendly high damage mage, Akali reworked into a high mobility/damage assassin that had true stealth, then nerfed and buffed over and over to no avail, maintaining 87% presence at worlds, Irelia comes into the game a broken mess with disarms and insane levels of damage again all targets, tanks included. Worst offender so far has to be Yuumi, lowest win rate on release that’s inherently difficult to balance and work with.

NTrumpWeTrust11/12/2019, 5:42:02 AM2 votes

Any champ that can get on top of her counters her hard. AKA any of the current top supports. landing hooks/grabs is even easier with her long wind up auto attack. Basically a free lane if you pick any of the top supports, don't expect to win playing passively with enchanters

Śhunpo11/12/2019, 11:19:48 AM2 votes

She's not fun to play with either as an ADC. She quite literally does your job better than you do, and she doesn't even have to farm. Additionally, she also plays more like a carry than a support, resulting in situations where you die and Senna gets to keep fighting because in reality she's just a secondary carry with no consistent support abilities.

What I'm trying to say is, she does your job better than you do and she doesn't help like a traditional support. Thus, she is not fun to play with.

Naon11/12/2019, 8:12:46 AM1 votes

I find that Naut just dumpsters her almost the entire time.

Illabethe11/11/2019, 3:24:56 PM1 votes

Here's my question: What are you playing as? She has legit shutdown lanes in bot.

Cait/Karma

Nami generally beats Senna

Long range poke makes her lane miserable and prevents stacking Q Champ stacks.

Hard CC engage like Leona (not Alistar) kills her out of lane

Randuin's can completely negate a TON of her damage, since she's already crit nerfed and late game ALWAYS crits

INoble KnightI11/12/2019, 2:39:23 AM1 votes

What was annoying is her root hitbox. I'd dodge the projectile and still get hit. It's deceptive.

GilxeN11/11/2019, 11:48:58 AM1 votes

Idk what are u talking about her Q dmg is totally fine and pretty slow, but ult is pretty fast and reaction to dodge is required.

8 Lamar Jackson11/11/2019, 9:14:42 AM1 votes

I play Leona into her...works pretty well every time.

JustMonika1311/11/2019, 7:57:49 AM1 votes

I honestly have no problem facing her. It could be that all the Sennas Ive been against were trash, and the fact that I haven’t laned against her but eh. People are like certain junglers will have problems ganking against her, but I have honestly had no problems killing/pressuring her as Kindred.

The only part that gets me is her ult; unlike other global ults it travels stupidly fast and if you’re low health and in dead center it’s either flash or die (or have a long dash).

DeleteSuppRole11/11/2019, 11:25:57 PM1 votes

i don't want to have another senna support, like holy shit they just push and push and have no idea what the fuck they're doing

P0IS0N IVY11/12/2019, 5:03:46 AM1 votes

I'm pretty sure her Q and soul scaling will get nerfed, but she's really easy to deal with. Just pick something with burst or hard CC and she pops. You don't even have to specifically target her since she doesn't peel well for her carry.