Any AP item that gives HP should not give that much AP.

z63XnLCMwX·Jan 19, 2019·1 votes·1,279 views

Mage should either choose between surviving for long lower damage extended trades or instaburst but squishy. Just came off a game where Zoe had nearly 2.5k hp but she was able to pretty much 1 shot our ADC with Q + AA. Not a bubble + Q, but a Q + AA.

Either give me a good reason why an AP item like Morellos/Rylais should give that much AP while still providing bonus HP. Attacks on my board posting account isn't my main account isn't a valid reason.

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9 Comments

hazerddexJan 19, 20197 votes

stop spamming. its obnoxious.

also again she didn't 1 shot ezreal she hit him with 3 different things and lulu got an assist.

your ezreal is severally under leveled

you have lost 10 towers.

3 dragons

also item 3152 is one of the lowest ap items it gives 60 ap which is about as much as the support item item 3504

z63XnLCMwXJan 19, 20191 votes

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stop spamming. its obnoxious.

also again she didn't 1 shot ezreal she hit him with 3 different things and lulu got an assist.

your ezreal is severally under leveled

you have lost 10 towers.

3 dragons

I'm not Ez so I don't know how much her Q did, but if she was able to land her Q, it's impossible to dodge her AA passive effect. What Ez looked like he got hit by was Q + AA + her W passive + electrocute. She got fed off of my Xin going into her jungle trying to counter jg and dying early game.

Replace Zoe by any mage and they'd still be able to 100-0 an ADC in a combo with AP item that gives bonus HP.

Except Hextech does even more damage by its active. Meanwhile item 3504 does not give any HP and does less damage.

hazerddexJan 19, 20191 votes

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I'm not Ez so I don't know how much her Q did, but if she was able to land her Q, it's impossible to dodge her AA passive effect. What Ez looked like he got hit by was Q + AA + her W passive + electrocute. She got fed off of my Xin going into her jungle trying to counter jg and dying early game.

this is the 3rd thread you have made on the same exact thing in a span of a few minutes so yes your spamming.

her AA can be blocked with banshees fyi

no she hit him with 3 different things you can even see it in the video item 3152 was used to finish him. so again that is not what a 1 shot is. 1 shot = 1 ability instant killing. 3 shots =/= 1 shot.

replace zoe with any fed ad carry and the results would be the same.

z63XnLCMwXJan 19, 20191 votes

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this is the 3rd thread you have made on the same exact thing in a span of a few minutes so yes your spamming.

her q is not impossible to dodge. its a skill shot not an instant now your just making things up.

no she hit him with 3 different things you can even see it in the video was used to finish him. so again that is not what a 1 shot is. 1 shot = 1 ability instant killing. 3 shots =/= 1 shot.

If you're going to argue on wording, then no champ except for Nasus, Cho, and Veigar can one shot. She can 100-0 with 0 counter play if she lands her combo without even using bubble. Happy?

hazerddexJan 19, 20191 votes

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If you're going to argue on wording, then no champ except for Nasus, Cho, and Veigar can one shot. She can 100-0 with 0 counter play if she lands her combo without even using bubble. Happy?

she has plenty of counter plays. your noc could have intercept with his shield for instance. and if ezreal didn't waste he e already could have warp away. he also stopped to auto attack zoe instead of dodging when he knew the q was launched back behind her. also both his summoner 4 and summoner 7 were up according to your own video.

all i see is a ezreal making a very bad play.

also item 3152 has a 40 second cooldown. ability which is a skill shot.

item 3504 give you bonus to heals bonus to movement speed and allies bonus to attack speed.

not to mention this item 3905 does even more ap damage and its a support item.

item 3165 is a good anti heal item, but in terms of raw damage item 3135 has more magic pen item 3285 gives you the same amount of ap as well as cool downs and give bonus damage on its passive.

if you ever plan on going mage i would never build item 3116 unless your a low mobility champion who needs the extra cc. such as AurelionSol or Xerath

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The thing is, she's fed lol. Any champion would two shot a AD in that situation.

Mages have HP on items because they don't have many (only 1 of each) resistant items, Also considering that the core mage build of leaves only two spots left (assuming you get to full items) Most Mages obviously build (which is 300 HP/80AP - it's getting it's AP nerfed to 70AP on PBE) and usually the last item is So in the average full build of a typical mage, they get 1 item that even gets HP. While ADs get BloodThirster which gives them a pretty size chunk of a shield that may as well be more HP, or the fact they can Lifesteal all their HP back and Mages can't, which is a lot of the reason they have so many items that give some HP.

not to mention a lot of the items that give said hp use to be the spell vamp items from way back.

but spell vamp got killed along with many other good ap items.

RIp summoner rift item 3128

MrHaZeYoJan 19, 20193 votes

The thing is, she's fed lol. Any champion would two shot a AD in that situation.

Mages have HP on items because they don't have many (only 1 of each) resistant items, Also considering that the core mage build of item 3285 item 3020 item 3089 item 3135 leaves only two spots left (assuming you get to full items) Most Mages obviously build item 3165 (which is 300 HP/80AP - it's getting it's AP nerfed to 70AP on PBE) and usually the last item is item 3157 So in the average full build of a typical mage, they get 1 item that even gets HP. While ADs get BloodThirster which gives them a pretty size chunk of a shield that may as well be more HP, or the fact they can Lifesteal all their HP back and Mages can't, which is a lot of the reason they have so many items that give some HP.

SyrileJan 19, 20192 votes

Bruisers are waaaaaaaay tankier and commonly do the same or more damage and have better mobility. Why not complain about them? Assassins do waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more damage, have a million dashes and ways of negating or dodging damage and many have stealth or some kind of very good engage and escape. Why not them? ADCs have sustained damage, some have CC, some have mobility, many have lifesteal. Why not complain about them? Fed damage dealers easily kill most champions, especially in the current meta. Some champions do not even need to be fed. Even fed tanks, in this meta, do enough damage to kill you in a couple of rotations.