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critical strike chance item for bruiser (no attack speed)

AL000··3 votes·634 views

after atma removed... some bruiser like nasus, garen, gp, tryn, etc have limited choice item...

lightbringer is very nice item but not balanced in rift... i still dont know why atma is not balanced... so i want to see new item for rare champion that can be useful... many critical strike hits item have Attack Speed... which is not good on brusier.. IE is very expensive path for bruiser...

new offensive item

  • brawler's gloves [400] + long sword [360] = 760 + new item [340] = 1100 gold [20 ad + 10% critical strike chance + 5% movement speed +
  • long sword [360] + cloak of agility [730] = 1090 + new item [110] = 1400 gold as [ 25 ad + 15% critical strike chance + ignores unit collision }

transform into final item

1100 + 1400 + new item [700] = 3200 gold [ 50 AD + 35% critical strike hit + 50% critical strike damage + ignores unit collision]

new defensive item

  • brawler's gloves [400] + 400 = avarice balde [800] = 10% critical strike chance + 3 gold per 10 seconds + Grants 2 gold upon killing a unit
  • cloth [300] + 450 = chain vest [750] = 40 ar
  • ruby crystal [400] + 450 = kindlegem [850] = 200 health + 10% cooldown reduction

transform into final item

800+750+850= new item [600] = 3000 = 30% critical strike chance + 60 ar + 400 hp + 10% cooldown reduction

any suggestion is fine.. just want to see new critical strike chance item for bruiser that needs more ad and or ar...

10 Comments

DrNova2 votes

The last thing bruisers need is Crit chance

AL0001 votes

there is such no last thing...

i want to see more option items... not every bruiser is same... like sheen for nasus, rengar, gp, etc... not for riven, olaf, etc....

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

I don't think an item that gives crit chance in addition to providing decent defensive stats is going to work. Every AD based champion would just abuse, as one of the reasons ADCs don't usually build PD and SS is because they need defensive stats somewhere in order to survive. If they could do that without sacrificing the crit chance (and giving CDR at the same time), it just wouldn't work.

And why is AS not good on bruisers? AS is a overall good stat to have on any champion that primarily AA, as it allows you to put out higher damage output within the same period of time as someone without the extra AS

DisasterSola1 votes

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I don't think an item that gives crit chance in addition to providing decent defensive stats is going to work. Every AD based champion would just abuse, as one of the reasons ADCs don't usually build PD and SS is because they need defensive stats somewhere in order to survive. If they could do that without sacrificing the crit chance (and giving CDR at the same time), it just wouldn't work.

And why is AS not good on bruisers? AS is a overall good stat to have on any champion that primarily AA, as it allows you to put out higher damage output within the same period of time as someone without the extra AS

AS isnt good on bruisers because, generally, there arent any "good" AS/AD items. Zephyr is considered a "noob trap" (Doesnt its tenacity stack? Like spellvamp?) and its pretty much the best split pushing item in the game.

Crit is a damage multiplier; If you can get crit AND defense you need much less AD because your effective AD is just so much higher. For example; PD+IE+MoM+boots+randy+SV= 400damage autoattacks more than 50% of the time.

Meh. When you combine crit with armor pen, its something like a 300% damage increase. Would be nice if crit didnt benefit from armor pen.

AL0001 votes

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AS isnt good on bruisers because, generally, there arent any "good" AS/AD items. Zephyr is considered a "noob trap" (Doesnt its tenacity stack? Like spellvamp?) and its pretty much the best split pushing item in the game.

Crit is a damage multiplier; If you can get crit AND defense you need much less AD because your effective AD is just so much higher. For example; PD+IE+MoM+boots+randy+SV= 400damage autoattacks more than 50% of the time.

Meh. When you combine crit with armor pen, its something like a 300% damage increase. Would be nice if crit didnt benefit from armor pen.

ghostblade is already good for assassin... that does burst damage... so not for bruiser imho...

of course zyphyr is the last item that i would buy... not recommend to buy at early or mid... terrible useless over-stats item...

AL0001 votes

{quoted}

I don't think an item that gives crit chance in addition to providing decent defensive stats is going to work. Every AD based champion would just abuse, as one of the reasons ADCs don't usually build PD and SS is because they need defensive stats somewhere in order to survive. If they could do that without sacrificing the crit chance (and giving CDR at the same time), it just wouldn't work.

And why is AS not good on bruisers? AS is a overall good stat to have on any champion that primarily AA, as it allows you to put out higher damage output within the same period of time as someone without the extra AS

some champion need more critical chance hits for caster... some champion have really low AA damage output... for example how can you increase garen's spin? increae gp's q? etc?

IE path is not cheap... and its for pure adc and assassin.... and better combine with some lifesteal to survive...

i doubt adc and assassin except yaso, tryn and yi wlll take those items...

Critmaster Garen1 votes

something similar like wicked hatchet/pillager would be nice. with the same passive.

AL0001 votes

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something similar like wicked hatchet/pillager would be nice. with the same passive.

no passive... its pretty op for early game... its pretty similar to darius's passive... what if darius gets this item asap... it would be broken...

so no to dota...

Critmaster Garen1 votes

{quoted}

no passive... its pretty op for early game... its pretty similar to darius's passive... what if darius gets this item asap... it would be broken...

so no to dota...

it only triggers on critical strikes. meaning early on, it wouldnt trigger very often for darius. not to mention, that he doesnt build much crit at all. it seems like a sub par item on him.

garen on the other hand has 6 damage ticks on his spin that can crit and potentially trigger the passive. though i still dont see much of a problem.

i really like to build i.e. and some good amount of crit in most games in addition to defense. if the item existed, i would probably build the pillager instead of i.e. instead since it has a much better build path and would be more reliable even with an overall small amount of crit.

it just looks like an item where having more crit% isnt necessarily beneficial, as you only need to crit once every 3 seconds to keep the passive going, and can otherwise build other ad items like cleaver, hexdrinker, etc. instead.

AL0001 votes

bump... some bruiser needs some loves... ;\

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