How about Darius E refresh after R killing blow?

Dormidon·Nov 20, 2016·1 votes·784 views

Just for better pentadunk moments. Seriously this is so annoying when passive is up and they're not close enough to get dunked. Dream sweet dream...

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5000000000000000Nov 20, 20161 votes

Lack of gapcloser is an important weakness of Darius, though.

DormidonNov 20, 20161 votes

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Lack of gapcloser is an important weakness of Darius, though.

Counting only on stupidity of your enemy isn't the best example of game design, though. (Seriously this is so easy for enemy team to deny dunking moment just by running away. There's no way you can deal with someone else that easy)

5000000000000000Nov 20, 20161 votes

That's how juggernauts are meant to be countered: kiting. Darius in particular, enemies should be running away if he has his Noxian Might. Other juggernauts are also weak to kiting, each with some tool to help cover that weakness. For most it's movespeed increase. For Mordekaiser, it's Rylai's. For Darius, it's Black Cleaver and Dead Man's Plate. If you still have problems chasing enemies after your first dunk, try getting Stormraider's Surge. It's an underrated mastery that's good on many fighters.

DormidonNov 20, 20161 votes

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That's how juggernauts are meant to be countered: kiting. Darius in particular, enemies should be running away if he has his Noxian Might. Other juggernauts are also weak to kiting, each with some tool to help cover that weakness. For most it's movespeed increase. For Mordekaiser, it's Rylai's. For Darius, it's Black Cleaver and Dead Man's Plate. If you still have problems chasing enemies after your first dunk, try getting Stormraider's Surge. It's an underrated mastery that's good on many fighters.

So juggernaut role is about to be entertaining clown? (They kite and feel kinda cool cuz they take down the raidboss yay!) Cool logic. Meanwhile Rumble is allowed to perform splitpush, zoning and also poke-kiting stuff. Right. E refresh doesnt help kiting issue but this will make things more fair in teamfight. Once they let him to reach full potential then why not to get punished for it? Nah. Just run away. Cuz it's "counterplay" part. Sure. Np. Great design. Classic juggernaut doesnt have a damn role in this game thx to stupid community

5000000000000000Nov 20, 20161 votes

Then fight with your team. They'll help you lock down fleeing enemies. If you're asking for a reliable way to 1v5 enemies, then the answer should obviously be a no.

l Dárius lNov 20, 20161 votes

I bring stormraiders against really kite-y teams and laners as Darius and it works against most of them inless its Cass, Kennen, or Gnar because even if you survive the kite you are to low to fight them.

l Dárius lNov 20, 20161 votes

Darius is all about the enemy players stupidity.

RequiemsfireNov 20, 20161 votes

Or how about Darius be smart about how he uses his abilities????

l Dárius lNov 20, 20161 votes

What? The typical initial combo with Darius is e auto w q or e auto q w. That is unless they walk right into him, and if you think Darius has to use his abilities at certain times to play efficiently, I'd bet your the type of person who walks right into a Darius.

RequiemsfireNov 20, 20161 votes

Well no one walks into the dunkmaster with a brain, although he can certainly walk into you if you're not careful, item 3742 item 3071 The point is that basically he doesn't have to initiate on his own nor does he have to use all of his abilities. If his E actually reset every time he killed someone with ultimate can you imagine just how much that would tip the balance of power if Darius got rewarded with both his passive proccing and his apprehend resetting? It'd remove a lot of potential counterplay especially considering it can pull multiple targets.

l Dárius lNov 21, 20161 votes

Trust me, if Darius gets a kill with his ult and gets 5 stacks, he will be able to use his e again since it's cd is not that high or the next victim will be close enough for him. Giving him an e reset will not break him, he will still get dumpstered by the same people who always dumpstered him. He will be better, yes, he will be more annoying, yes, and yes, an e reset will not fix the quality of life issues Darius has outside of lane.

Pierce The VealNov 20, 20161 votes

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Just for better pentadunk moments. Seriously this is so annoying when passive is up and they're not close enough to get dunked. Dream sweet dream...

How about a no.

mustafa2881Nov 20, 20161 votes

No, then he would be broken. more than ever.

l Dárius lNov 20, 20161 votes

It is going to take a lot more than an e reset to make Darius even viable right now my friend

mustafa2881Nov 21, 20161 votes

W refresh? Q REFRESH? FLASH REFRESH? FREE IGNITE? ISN'T IT ENOUGH HE GETS HIS THINGY PASSIVE TO PROC WHEN HE EXECUTES AN ENEMY WITH R? HE EVEN GETS HIS R ABILITY BACK! IUPOJSADIOJEKWDSA)UICOJLKEWDASOJKLIW)DAOS

l Dárius lNov 20, 20161 votes

I don't think this is a good way to fix Darius

If they want to fix Darius, I think he only needs quality of life changes

Darius's e mid and late game normally means a guaranteed kill(unless hes is like 0/9 or something), even if you need to use it twice, because of his w. Making it potentially spammable would not make him broken but I think it could make him just shy of it. I mean, he can have 400 ad with a black cleaver and full tank, lets be real here he does a LOT of damage. Every ability in his kit makes him do more damage in some way (his e gives him 25% armor pen at level 5) I think the issue with Darius is that his q and e hitbox are a little weird in that sometimes they don't hit when they are supposed to. I feel like if those were fixed Darius would have an easier time closing the gap and would properly punish people for getting to close. It is especially worse on certain champions as well. I can't even beat a stupid Gnar on Darius any more because he is to hard to catch in mini Gnar but in mega Gnar his hit box with the q and e seem to be the same as mega Gnar and miss half the time. I have noticed hitbox issues on Kled and Kennen, where it looks like your q or e should hit but it doesnt. In some matchups this can lose Darius the lane, and because of that potentially the game.