Veigar changes

TossedinAustin·2/26/2015, 1:43:34 AM·1 votes·421 views

First of all, im glad you guys are finally changing the first champion i ever learned how to play. Second of all, i like how you gave Q a little extra range so that veigar has some decent poke without burning his stun or leaving the pocket. Thirdly, i am glad that you toned down the ratios on R because it really didnt need that high of a ratio.

However, the change to his E stun seems like it utterly devastates veigar's kit. I can no longer use flash aggressively to stun someone like annie does with flash tibbers. I can no longer stun lee sin or diana as they dash to me, giving me the second i need to escape. I can no longer stun katarina ultimate in time to save my own life. The fact that the spell particle effect announces where the stun will appear completely destroys any strength the spell had as a multi target stun. I feel like there were MUCH healthier changes to event horizon that could have been made. For example i was thinking that having it stun the first 2 targets hit and slowing all subsequent targets would be a fair nerf. The thing that made it so powerful was its potential to stun all 5 enemy players. There are very few spells in the entire game that can potentially stun 5 people and most of them are ultimate spells like sona, leona, malphite, sejuani, etc. The only basic spells in the game that can potentially stun 5 people are spells like nami bubble, vel'koz knockup, viktor gravity field, darius pull(maybe) and yes veigar's event horizon. But again, i would agree with you that event horizon was too powerful, it was even more powerful than his ultimate because of how powerful it was in teamfights. But by giving it a delay you effectively made veigar useless against any high mobility mage. Without his quick stun he cant even hold his own against champions like leblanc, diana, or katarina. And since his stun was such a key part of his kit by allowing players to land dark matter more easily or stunning people as they chase him, it feels like veigar has been devastatingly neutered. Please consider changing veigars E stun back to something more similar to what it was. I will say again, if you made it so that it had no delay but only stunned the first 1 or 2 targets hit, slowing the rest, then it would be at a perfect spot in power i think. It wouldnt be overwhelming in teamfights but it would still be powerful in bush assassinations or skirmishing. That would also leave his earlygame laning mostly intact.

On an added side note, Veigar's passive has always been kinda crappy but ever since mana regen items became % of base mana regen veigar's passive has reached a new level of crap that i think needs some attention. I dont think im the only one who feels that veigar's passive is kind of underpowered compared to other champions passives.

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