As an assassin main, these damage nerfs are exactly what's needed

Shaydrox·8/5/2018, 1:02:05 PM·41 votes·11,720 views

I just came back and played some Talon again, he has never been this easy to oneshot people with. Forget that totally useless W return damage nerf they did, he obliterates any squishy even if he doesn't maximize his damage.

Assassins SHOULD only be able to kill squishy targets IF they land a good full combo and get the most out of their abilities (assuming they are full health). If I miss 1 skill and cancel an autoattack but my Duskblade/Ignite/Electrocute executes my target anyway, that really feels dumb.

Also once we've nerfed excess damage we can actually judge which champions are or are not broken.

19 Comments

Who Fed Ru8/5/2018, 1:25:51 PM15 votes

It's true what you say, but the whole game needs rebalancing now because everyone is doing so much damage that basically everybody can do an Assassins job.

Ripikou8/6/2018, 2:00:02 AM4 votes

Well that is what happens when no one wants to actually balance. The balancing act is a 1 shot race. Whoever gets the the fastest is the best. Everyone has to do "tons of damage" to make up for the fact everyone does tons of damage... Who'd of thought taking away tank stats and giving raw base damage would of resulted in more damage? Not me, that's for sure.

Andevar8/5/2018, 10:49:04 PM2 votes

Agreed. It's disgusting how Talon doesn't fall off late-game anymore. He could have 20 kills and it actually matters now, whereas before, he'd be almost useless.

Doesn't even need passive to one-shot either.

ISLAMICWARRIOR998/6/2018, 2:18:07 AM2 votes

Honestly the only two classes who should be able to 1 shot squishies unless stupid fed are burstmages and assasins. Currently bruisers, normal mages, and even some tanky champs can just 100-0 you when even. Its just stupid that so many classes can do what two classes are meant to do and devalues having assasins/burst mages. Why play zed when I can do more damage to 5 people as vlad than he can to the adc. Riot seriously needs to consider reverting runes to the old system because since the new ones came out its just been a back and forth between the defensive and offensive ones being overpowered. When they first came out aftershock was stupidly broken and now its just swapped with electrocute for most busted rune. Back with old masteries I cant think of any time tld procced or a fervor user killed me that I thought "holy shit that's cancer" but now somone procs electrocute and suddenly I go from being chunked to like 25% hp with a combo to just dying.

In the meantime problem runes like electrocute really need nerfs because they just make it easier for champs to 1 shot. Where a zed needed to w e and then hit 2qs + aa to nuke you before, meaning he had to commit, now with electrocute you just die to the combo. Same with the mages who can abuse it and just one shot you in a single rotation with like 1 item.

BestPudgeNA8/6/2018, 1:54:19 PM2 votes

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has never been this easy to oneshot people with.

If I miss 1 skill and cancel an autoattack but my Duskblade

Patch 8.6

NIGHTSTALKER DAMAGE (MELEE) 65-320 (at levels 1-18) ⇒ 30-200 (at levels 1-18) NIGHTSTALKER DAMAGE (RANGED) 45-300 (at levels 1-18) ⇒ 30-200 (at levels 1-18)

Truly Duskblade is better then ever.

Can the boards be honest for once, lets be real summoner 14 needs its buffs reverted and a few Assassins like Talon, Zed need their Duskblade compensation buffs re-evaluated.

Stop asking for Kayn to be nerfed because Quinn Talon Zed are OP

Katarinint8/6/2018, 9:22:10 PM1 votes

Your point is valid, but what about the fact that they are nerfing Katarina runes when she is in a horrible state?

Thefrostyviking8/5/2018, 5:31:39 PM1 votes

True, i mean just look at this entire thing with Ahri and Zoe too.

Both have had vids uploaded of them killing targets while missing their E's and Q's and its called OP.

Which to be fair it kinda is, but then you realize ignite+electrolute is like 40% of a squishy targets health and suddenly it becomes easy to see how it actually happened.

Electrolute+luden+lichbane+ignite = around 60% of someones health?

Then you just have to add in a bit of damage from the kits and suddenly they are dead.

If you actually hit everything then even a support cannot save the victim.

Damage from outside sources is ridiculously high right now, and riot did seem to notice this and said they are looking into it but removing the ability to stack those external things together is definitely part of the solution.

However they will have to nerf ignite and electrolute as well i think, i am fairly sure the majority of users already have decent or even good damage in their kits and do not need those excessively big crutches to get them along.

Raven Redeemed8/5/2018, 6:41:03 PM1 votes

he has never been this easy to oneshot people with

I agree upfront burst damage needs to be nerfed, but did you play Talon before his rework? He could oneshot people in .1 sec and there was absolutely nothing they could do about it when his old E (a blink) had a silence on it.

Need Gold 4 Tent8/6/2018, 2:10:55 AM1 votes

Malphite item 3285 item 3020 item 3147 item 3100 item 3087 item 3146 - Doesn't even scale any of his skills by much, mediocre ap with some ad yet capable of 100-0 any squishy with just R-Q-AA.

Śhunpo8/6/2018, 10:42:34 AM1 votes

Imo they should nerf damage in general and then revert the assassin update [katarina-love]