Despite controlling drag and baron as best I could
Despite roaming and helping my team catch up
Despite getting several towers
Despite peeling for my team as the ADC
... how in the fuck is it my fault I lose all my games? 16/5 as Jhin, I'm obviously not doing badly, and I lose. But that's my fault, right?
Shahamut2 votesIts not so much about whether or not its "your fault" so much as it is about "you are the only player you can change". You had a good game, you lost. Figure out what YOU could have done better. I highly doubt your game was flawless, and when you correct those things, it will be easier (not guaranteed obviously you have 4 teammates) to carry.
Chin up and focus on improving. its all you can do. though I also completely understand the need to vent at times XD
FieryNox1 votesIts not so much about whether or not its "your fault" so much as it is about "you are the only player you can change". You had a good game, you lost. Figure out what YOU could have done better. I highly doubt your game was flawless, and when you correct those things, it will be easier (not guaranteed obviously you have 4 teammates) to carry.
Chin up and focus on improving. its all you can do. though I also completely understand the need to vent at times XD
Naa, you should be able to carry 4 teammates if u greatly outskill all 9 players, I made a thread about this meta.. and I made sure to highlight this as an issue and what causes this. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/WGzNXjdU-eve-and-current-meta-a-very-disappointing-riot-games
Niyume1 votesOkay, but I don't think I'm a typical silver player, nor even gold like on my other account. I've gone against diamonds in lane, even a couple challengers, and always came out ahead.
So, I don't know what more I can do. I don't see what I do wrong. I doubt my game was flawless too, since I did have a few deaths, but I don't know what I'm messing up on so badly to have shitty winrates over so many games.
And venting is apparently taboo, since people get banned for it all the time.
Shahamut1 votesI havent seen anyone get banned for coming on the boards and venting their frustrations. Taking out your frustration on your teammates isnt venting :P
Niyume1 votesOh I almost was. Was banned for a week, and the next step was permanent suspension. On the forums, not in game.
And then I was banned for 14 days in-game for ranting to myself in chat, not talking to anyone in particular or even remotely flaming.
Soooo... I call BS.
Baron Barian1 votesOh my fucking God, this was pretty much my entire night.
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Oh my fucking God, this was pretty much my entire night.
It will continue to be in this meta.
FieryNox1 votes
Despite controlling drag and baron as best I could
Despite roaming and helping my team catch up
Despite getting several towers
Despite peeling for my team as the ADC
... how in the fuck is it my fault I lose all my games? 16/5 as Jhin, I'm obviously not doing badly, and I lose. But that's my fault, right?
I made a post about this.
IcyPepper1 votesI know this is going to be wild, but maybe your team as a whole was just outplayed?
Sure, you may have been the top dog of your team, but both teams were relatively even. From the stats alone, they had Baron and that was the main difference.
You're only one person. Should one person be able to win a game alone, or five people working together?
Niyume1 votesI mean that's how people make it sound. You should be able to solo carry your team, or you DESERVE to lose, apparently.
Barkley1 votesDon't think of it as a fault thing. Even diamond+ players have games like this. Even LCS teams have games like this (I seem to remember a recent 10k gold lead blown... or two...)
There is only one factor in any game you can control, and that is yourself. Consider the rest of your team to be unpredictable AI bots. You have to do what you can to help your bots, but you also need to adapt what you're doing to best compliment what they're doing. This is a TEAM game.
If you did everything you said you did, and you can HONESTLY stand back and look at the game and say "I did everything to the best of my ability" .... Then fuck it. You're GONNA have games like that. Its inevitable. Move on.
However, if you can scrutinize your own play, go back, and look at something you might be able to grow from as a player... then losses become opportunities to learn.
Blaming your team accomplishes nothing for self growth. Neither does beating yourself up over things beyond your control.
Niyume1 votesOkay, but now what if I told you that, on my accounts put together, I have around 11,000 (yes, 11k) games at this point, and I've never gotten past gold 4?
I can see what I do wrong, and oftentimes I know can I get away with a mistake or two since people can't do anything about it where I'm at, but I do well nearly every game, and still lose nearly every game. I do everything I can to help my team not feed, but it's just not enough I guess.
Pyromaniacks1 votesYou don't have to win to have fun you don't have to win every game or even close to every game to climb. Once you accept this you will probably be less stressed.
Niyume1 votesI've spent over 10,000 games with little to no progress as far as rank goes, despite getting better and better at the game during the few years I've been here -- and that's because of the "teams" I get stuck with. That's what bothers me.
archerno11 votesI've spent over 10,000 games with little to no progress as far as rank goes, despite getting better and better at the game during the few years I've been here -- and that's because of the "teams" I get stuck with. That's what bothers me.
Yes, you are getting better. But so do others. In the end u gotta accept that you hit your skill cap
CapmTeemboy1 votesYes, you are getting better. But so do others. In the end u gotta accept that you hit your skill cap
Skill cap in LoL? That's hilarious because individual skill no longer matters as of recent seasons. The game has become a CC + team base mess that it's more of luck at this point(regarding SoloQ that is).
Let's face it, this game's becoming the problem Overwatch has; too team orientated. Removing simple things like "QSS countering Zed's ult" makes you have to rely more on a team mate to heal you, shield you, bell you, etc.
Stupid and heavily flawed system, team based is. You don't need to be a pro to understand that problem either.
bloodybadger11 votesthis is because you are adc. you need something that scales harder and can 1 v 5 harder. otherwise you are too team reliant. being 15 and 5 is ok but the problem is when you are 15 and 5 and you die and suddenly your team gets aced without killing any of them. in a 4 v 5 they shouldnt be acing you for no retalition kills but as adc if you die first late game it almost always happens this way. its not necessarily about getting fed. if you are putting all the pressure on yourself by being fed and cant carry a teamfight, then this likely means your teamcomp sucks or you are bad at teamfighting. i disagree with higher elos sometimes when they say dont die as an adc. usually if im fed (or even or losing) as vayne i dont give a fk if i die in a teamfight. my number one goal is to kill the enemy team's best player and then afterwards do as much damage to their important targets. as jhin you cant do this as easy but i think the strategy is still there. make sure you arent afraid of dying in teamfights. your life for 3 enemies is not ideal, but it wins games
not dying only really works at the highest levels of play where teamcomps are even and players play their roles correctly. my guess is even when you have most of the gold, you arent outputting an adequate team percentage of dps (relative to your team gold percentage) in fights because you are protecting your kda.
when i had a 3.5 kda on vayne i had a 40% winrate. when my kda went to 2.0 i had a 60%. reevaluate your strategies to make sure they will work in the elo you are at.
Poske1 votesHonestly wouldnt reccomend jhin
He is like tier 9 adc atm