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Veigar Nerfs?

WatchdaWorldBurn··4 votes·900 views

Am I delusional? Didn't Riot just get done saying, for 2 patches in a row, that they are aware certain champs hit hardest by DFG removal as core item need compensation? Did they not say Veigar was top on the list? Have I lost my reading comprehension ability? So they remove DFG, making it so the champion can't kill anyone now. Champion is already severely crippled by mana, now with far less kill pressure. So what do they do, now they fucking gut the whole champion entirely. Q is now a skill shot that will be blocked from hitting desired burst target. Lost damage on R. Made the only fun part of Veigar's kit, his E, now suck ballz and be as easy to avoid as Anivia's Q.

Pretty stellar "compensation". Way to double down and go from making the champ flat out bad to utterly worthless. Love the design philosphy lately. Still no new AP item and couldn't fit in necessary buffs to Veigar for 2 patches now but they're happy to yank DFG and introduce ZZ'rot portal as such an IMPORTANT addition to the game. Great use of all those design resources on a fucking troll item. RIP AP's

5 Comments

stuartk112 votes

The total time the cage lasts now is 0.75 seconds less as well. It will disappear 1.5 seconds after casting, and with the 0.75 seconds of warning particles, it makes it very unlikely to have a major effect on the game much more.

ValyrianBlade1 votes

I had the same problem with the ahri changes as someone who loved the flash-charm-kill combo. Yet she climbed to a high win rate and then they nerfed her (so I dislike it even more? ).

The q hits 2 targets now. I guess that increases his teamfight presence? They're claiming in early tests it increased his q stacking rate too much that they needed to lower his ult ratio because he hit his late game power spike in the early game with all the extra stacks.

Not a fan of the e change AT ALL though. So they're pretty much saying veigar is only going to be good against low Tier players who'll run in to it anyways. Although at least if he traps them in the cage and they don't take the stun, teammates with knockbacks can push them in to the wall (as a hecarim jungler I love veigar mids, my e knockback pushing them in to his stun after they've already waited 2 seconds in the cage :p).

So maybe he'll just be a more niche pick now. Disappointed nonetheless. I have ahri/LeBlanc as my mid mains and was intending on picking up veigar to counter if one was picked and one banned.

WatchdaWorldBurn2 votes

The E change is honestly the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life. The champion is already weak as fuck. Now you're going to give opponents 1 sec to outplay his only form of contribution to the team. Yeah i'm sure in this League of Hyper mobility they created lately NO ONE will EVER manage to dodge Veigar's E. Play well, land accurate skill shots, get rewarded with..........nothing. No reason to play AP champs any more, AD's do everything better with more reliability, mobility, and burst potential.

It's almost laughable the fucking design philosphy of Riot lately. Totally ruining the role of AP mid.

ValyrianBlade1 votes

Have to say I really agree with this.

It's like, as an AP mid vs an AD mid, I can dodge your entire rotation and choose to retaliate and land half of my skillshots, and then will get killed. Like, AD assassins get to miss every single one of their abilities and since they build AD can still destroy you. Lately though, AP mids receiving nerfs has meant that if you miss even 1 ability you're "outplayed" (recall that he missed 4, or rather I dodged 4) and you lose the fight.

I'm sorry, skillshots = less reliable, therefore should be more rewarding. Should be common sense.

Fertsa1 votes

So maybe he'll just be a more niche pick now.

Niche pick? Viktor

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