@Meddler Do you really think that Kindred don't need any changes?

Scopé·Nov 29, 2016·4 votes·525 views

At first... No I'm not a past Kindred main. In fact i still play them, with over 63% win rate and almost 300k mastery points. But lets get real here. Kindred are currently much weaker than most of the junglers. Before they've had some kind of sustain in duels and more armor. They are adc, that's true, but most of the time they cannot count on support's help as ad carries do. Early in game they are extremely vunerable to invades due to high sustain and damage output of other junglers. It leads to difficulties with getting stacks, making Kindred useless in late without them. Also Fervor changes indirectly nerfed The Eternal Hunters as their AD scaling is pretty low. I would recommend giving Kindred armor/heal back nad tweaking some numbers in abilities. Riot, I know you can do something about that, and I hope you will, as 48% win rate is not a sign of strength.

7 Comments

TormentulaNov 29, 20163 votes

They have a positive winrate atm and BOTRK just got buffed.

They really don't need any changes, they finally hit the mark on balancing them.

The smite changes alone helped them out so much since it basically replaces the W passive they lost, and the W slow on jungle monsters make the new jungle so much smoother for them since more camps are solo melee and kitable.

Kindred doesn't need buffed, the jungle assassins need nerfed. Otherwise they're doing great. The only reason people think they're lame is because they're team reliant but kindred doesn't have to go in the enemy jungle 24/7 to get marks and caught out.

The moment they get buffed, we'll likely go back to 100% banrate kindred because that ultimate is just way too unhealthy to exist, and letting all the other strong points of kindred get stronger just makes things worse.

Shadow HazardNov 30, 20162 votes

You are checking the wrong stats then. On champion.gg, op.gg, counterplay.xyz, lolalytics.com all show kindred having a negative win rate since the start of preseason. Kindred is not in a good state right now and is actually in fact in need of some pretty notable buffs.

PermabannedGarenNov 29, 20162 votes

They're not buffing Kindred because Kindred's design makes them inherently feast or famine, and when they're strong they tend to dominate the game. I remember the last time Kindred was good. She was by far the best jungler in the game. She's like Nidalee in that regard.

khorneyNov 29, 20162 votes

ikr fervor nerfed kindred kal even more and varus and kog and ashe all of whom relied on the on hit extra damage but noooooooooooo we get extra ad that only stacks with basics..... who the fck cares i and im not alone in this would gladly rathe rhave the extra damage then this stupid crap of extra ad

Leo1024Nov 29, 20162 votes

Taliyah

Shadow HazardNov 30, 20161 votes

There is no reason that riot should be having so much radio silence on a champ that have been complained about for at least having QoL tweaks since before preseason, and is in an even greater need of straight up buffs or even as you suggested some consideration of reverting previous nerfs.

ScopéNov 30, 20161 votes

I feel like buffing Kindred is very touchy topic that Riot is afraid to talk about. But they are buffing Azir and Kalista that are "hard to balance". Much harder than Kindred I think.