I'm scared of the PBE notes for s9

z63XnLCMwX··1 votes·1,328 views

Ardent censer buffs from 8% healing and shielding to 10%.

Please not the ardent censer meta again.

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Sydney269 votes

2% will change nothing ... a heal after the adc already died can have a 1597% heal increase and would be still useless

ModWulf Helhammer4 votes

Ardent meta stopped after they removed the on-hit heal from it. Worlds was played on an earlier patch that had not had that patch yet.

Warlord Rhinark3 votes

Oh come on Seen.

It's only a 2% increase.

They're not making it do anymore damage.

Pokemonred2003 votes

They're literally just reverting the Forbidden Idol line's nerfs from last year, when the items weren't even that strong to begin with.

vgamedude1 votes

ardent buffs with adc buffs oh boy cant wait....

lil box1 votes

I mean I feel like enchanters will slowly creep their way back into the meta just because riot has just been nerfing every tank support besides leona

Alistar Braum TahmKench have all been nerfed quite a bit.

Also I find it quite annoying that they're nerfing alistar's dmg but not buffing health or something to composite. I'm fine with him doing less dmg, but he's been sitting at a 50% wr while stuff like brand/zyra have a way higher wr. It's kinda tilting that they're only nerfing him instead.

With the item 3151 buff and the addition of stats that allow you to take an additional 20 free ap I feel like Brand and Zyra both need nerfs

crazÿ1 votes

you are right about tanks supp. but brand and zyra dose`t need buff those 2 ap champions sometimes they carry adc they deal allot of damage

lil box1 votes

I didn't say they needed buffs, I said they needed nerfs

crazÿ1 votes

thought its buff mb

jocomotion1 votes

You forget shields where nerfed, shield duration was nerfed, and shield supports are bottom tier right now. Not to mention people have been complaining about too much damage so honestly this is a step in the right direction.

An additional 2% isn’t even much.

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