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Zyra upcoming changes

Habaneristo·2/15/2016, 10:30:04 AM·2 votes·947 views

Hey guys,

How are you? Can we please talk about Zyra? Ever since I started playing League of Legends, I felt in love with Zyra. She's a plant, and I love plants. I live in the city, but my house is full of plants. I've planted a few trees myself, and I really feel like planting a whole forest someday. Might not be a big one, but that is going to be my legacy to the world. Anyway... due to the recent changes to Graves, which was my favorite adcarry, I am really worried about Zyra. I simply cannot play Graves anymore and that really upsets me, because I am the kind of person that's always trying to be better at everything, everyday.

I really felt the loss. Don't get me wrong, though... I feel happy for people that didn't like Graves before the changes and are having now the opportunity to shine with him. But I also feel really bad everytime I see one and remember that I can't play him anymore. I wouldn't like that to happen to Zyra. I am scared, to say the least, and I hope that you can understand it.

Do you guys feel that Zyra really needs to change? In which ways? I personally think that Zyra's been nerfed a lot in movespeed terms and mana cost terms. She is a tad bit oppressive in lane, specially in bot lane, if she's allowed to spam her abilities, but to me, she's kinda like Brand now, except slower. Brand deals a lot of damage, has one target ability, one skill shot ability, one area of effect ability, tons of damage and a bouncing ult, not to mention his stun. Might be a little hard to make it happen, but once it happens, shit hits the fan. :( Zyra's supposed to be a low mobility mage, with a good ammount of damage to her kit. I fear that she'll become a utility support, like Janna, for example. Janna's really strong at protecting, but if the team does not knows what to do, she can't carry the game with a play. I feel like Zyra can, and I'd be really happy if she could interact more with terrain, or the river, or things like that, but at the same time I fear that she might became unplayable for me too, due to drastic changes.

Sorry for such a big text... Also, if a Rioter could join us here... it's really important for me.

Thanks a lot!

8 Comments

Ave Machina2/15/2016, 11:06:43 AM1 votes

Well, the new Graves is obscenely overpowered. His Q and his ult have massive burst, and his E, Quickdraw, can give him up to 120 bonus armor and MR as a fight wears on. Sterak's Gage is standard on him now. He's an ADC burst tank. It's absolutely disgusting.

You didn't mention why you feel like you can't play him anymore. You can ask anyone, and they'll tell you he's stronger now, so I assume you feel like you can't play him because he's different.

If that's the case, then I don't think there are going to be any Zyra changes that you'll like. Unfortunately, changes are going to happen, so I suggest you try and learn to adapt to your characters as they change, instead of giving up on them forever.

Rain NT2/15/2016, 11:18:24 AM1 votes

It happens sadly, thats why I never get too attach to a champion anymore because they will end up reworking them anyway if their kit is bad. Used to play AP GP top and now it doesnt work at all lmao, it would be like a rumble ult but bigger and a 600 heal on his W with Iichbane procs in lane (not to mention he still had good AD AA cause of his previous E and old passive) But now they nerf his ult his AP ratio on his W and reworked his E entirely. Sad days man

They even reworked Yi and Kayle and now Shen... Whatever thats why I learnt how to play every champion instead.... Rule number one man... never fall in love with a champion.. they wont stay the way they are lmao

Madra2/15/2016, 3:21:38 PM1 votes

She needs a passive that will help her while she's alive (there's nothing OP about her current passive so they can keep it or get rid of it, I hardly care), improvements to her base hit points and slightly higher hit point growth per level, and her base movespeed needs to be tweaked to 330 or 335. She has one of the lowest hit point values in the game, and she needs help surviving in a game where everyone has additional damage procs and the dorkblade of draktharr exists. Seeds could probably be tweaked to 45 seconds lifespan to help her maximize her potential. And her plant AI still needs a lot of work.

And for the record, I hate when they rework a champion on principle alone. The older versions of Soraka, Karma, Graves and Sion all had their unique charms and it's sad that they just out and out reworked them. I hope that they don't change Zyra too much.

Amelie2/15/2016, 3:29:37 PM1 votes

The mage discussion is here: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/jQmE1EjE-mid-year-mage-update

You might want to read through some of the Riot replies. I'm sure they won't make Zyra a utility support in the same sense as Janna - I think they will try to bring back more of her mage qualities so she can go mid lane again. It IS a mage update, after all.

I'm scared too, though. I love Zyra as she is. And Caitlyn has been ruined for me the same way Graves has for you. I hope it doesn't happen again. :(