In all seriousness tho when are those Ryze nerfs coming?

Namazu Ebisu··5 votes·894 views

I know it's common to joke about reworking Ryze and everything but it's time to be serious.

The thing is spammed by multiple high elo/competitive players for a while because he's abusable easily. He has litteraly everything in his kit he needs to be an extreme bully, but that's just too much :

  • Has by far the best waveclear in the game
  • Can poke you using that waveclear with no damage reduction
  • Can reset his Q with both W and E (which i find retarded)
  • Has litteraly a ghost and barrier with his Q, no cooldown, the barrier needs removal
  • Builds tanky and is rewarded for it with damage (can onecombo you with a tear)

He has no need for dashes or flashes when he can exceed over 550 ms with Q and Stormraider constantly. Also, since he must build an archangel, the shields from his Q and the active makes it just too much, that's why the shield on his Q makes no sense and needs to be removed.

And don't come linking low elo winrates, that's absolutely not relevant to the actual champion who is clearly over-broken and has too much to offer as a champion in both early game and especially late game.

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IA9hRfpP5q2 votes

They're gonna rework him.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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They're gonna rework him.

eventually its gonna happen prob this year. it has happened every other year.

Birbonius1 votes

item 3027 = Tanky-damage item 3070 = Sustain in lane (damage for ryze)

item 3070 is not like item 3027 ,so item 3070 is not tanky since ryze doesn't have Singed 's passive.

All clear?

nm10101 votes

If Ryze consumes 2 Runes, he shields himself from up to 60 - 200 (based on level) (+ 60% AP) (+ 3% bonus mana) damage for 2 seconds and gains bonus movement speed for the duration.

It might not be as tanky as the 2700g item, but it does add some tankiness + builds into item 3040 which gives a lot of tankiness.

Birbonius1 votes

I still don't think of it as "building tanky". When i think of this scaling (shield based on mana,which one of my favorite champions Urgot has) i think of "using my offensive items in a defensive stat because that's how is thought to be". Old Spell Vamp Ryze could be considered building tanky too,since it added way more health then he should've had during a fight.

I agree that in a certain way can be considered as a "tanky build",but it's only for ryze's case (and Singed,and Urgot,and whoever still scales defensively off mana) . A real Tanky build for Ryze would be item 3110 or an item 3025,which would give him tanky stats+mana that would become both defensive and offensive,but no one does it because it doesn't really work (or they still have to try it,who knows),but saying that building Tear is building Tanky,i'm sorry but i don't think that.

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