What would make Shen truely AWESOME : Q collison damage

Namazu Ebisu·Jan 28, 2016·58 votes·3,245 views

I love to juke my opponents into going between me and his magic sword but i'd LOVE to have damage when it pierces opponents because right now it feels so blank. Also, it would be great if the Q could RESET auto attacks like every single empower ability in the game...

I was so dissapointed when i had those mindgames when we rush the ennemy and then retreat a bit but my sword is still behind them from the first push and the guy has like 50 hp and standing on my sword's line and i was like "daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn"

Really, i'm looking for the fun here, he has not. It's stupid to have a whole mechanic with a magical sword but the only interaction you have with it is the W. The Q is not really what i would call a great interaction.

35 Comments

RalanrJan 28, 20165 votes

Wish it could deal damage to enemies it passes through.

Namazu EbisuJan 28, 201620 votes

That's exactly what i wrote

RalanrJan 28, 20168 votes

Yeah, I'm agreeing with you.

Namazu EbisuJan 28, 20167 votes

Oh ok thanks

EvewynnJan 28, 20164 votes

it is definitely a matter of clarity that the sword should deal damage as it comes trough the enemy. You would probably need to shift some of the power from empowered Q to compensate but it just makes sense.

Robert SmithJan 28, 201610 votes

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it is definitely a matter of clarity that the sword should deal damage as it comes trough the enemy. You would probably need to shift some of the power from empowered Q to compensate but it just makes sense.

how about we get rid of the slow

Guardian of TimeJan 29, 20161 votes

Its not even a useful slow. Its literally worse than tryns.

Odyssey85Jan 29, 20161 votes

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Its not even a useful slow. Its literally worse than tryns.

I think Trynd's mocking shout is a pretty interesting mechanic, since his AA's hurt so bad you're bound to run away. His undying though, that's a different story...

La BarbotteJan 29, 20164 votes

his ult should have a zed like animation to your allies when you ult on them, like mouhahahahaa shadows converge to the ally and shen get out like a boss, ninjas dont do shiny explosions, they stealth in

Guardian of TimeJan 29, 20163 votes

IMO new shen is far too weak to be played. His ult is his only good thing, his passive, his q, his taunt, and his w are all extremely sub-par. He can't even go 1v1 with low hp champs anymore. Never seen a rework take the power level of a champ down so significantly.

MyScreenIsGreyJan 29, 20162 votes

Lmao people are downvoting you but its true

RetillinJan 29, 20161 votes

His W is HUGELY powerful.

ZGM DazzlingJan 29, 20161 votes

more like skill floor up.

QuephaJan 28, 20162 votes

I think the game needs more empower abilities that don't reset autos.

Also, it would be super wonky for Q to reset the auto since that shouldn't happen until your blade hits you.

Indominus BladeJan 28, 20162 votes

Shen is fine as he is now, 0 buffs needed.

SatansteinJan 28, 20162 votes

yeah it sure is fine having his q take a solid full second to actually activate.

Jhin UItd JFKJan 29, 20161 votes

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yeah it sure is fine having his q take a solid full second to actually activate.

You can spam Q while in lane to move it to your desired position: It's on a low CD and you regen energy pretty quick, so you dont have to have your sword 3 screens away for it to move to you. It's all about positioning, which I think is cool :D

Indominus BladeJan 29, 20161 votes

Yes it is, since you need to wait for the sword to reach you, called counter play kid.

SpoofghoulJan 28, 20161 votes

Cant they just remove the bonus bonus damage when the sword collides with enemeis and just ahve the regualr q bonus damage but %0% atatckspeed when you pull the sword through.

And then just add damage to the q sword.

wow this sounds so confusing lol

anyway you still get your 3 atttack bonus damage when you use q just not the increased bonus damage when you pull the q through someone is what i mean. Instead add that damage to the sword that pierces people.

SettDownShutUpJan 28, 20161 votes

Honestly, I'd prefer it as an AA resetter, forgo the increase empower damage, and instead just have the sword slow and deal damage on passing through.

RebonackJan 29, 20161 votes

If Shen whomps a foe with his sword, it hits for one empowered auto worth of damage and Shen only gets two attacks afterwards.

Damage remains the same, but feels better.

Kerrigan 4 PrezJan 29, 20161 votes

what it should actually do is apply a healing effect. Basically you get a vorpal blade for taking the blade through.

Handin Out NapsJan 29, 20161 votes

I don't think he needs buffs lol. On another note he is so cool now :O.

ShrîkeJan 29, 20161 votes

I'd like it when the sword passes through them that it doesn't matter which way they are facing for it to slow.

ScarabkingJan 29, 20161 votes

All i want and I think it will make everyone stop hating him is for his w to reduce aoe spells or magic dmg at least (something) since it was stripped off his taunt and never placed anywhere else or maybe make the w return dmg when they auto you, a lot of people think his lane phase is super weak comparatively, I think he's super fun personally and I really enjoyed my time with him on pbe and had fun dueling ppl however they aren't usually amazing players.

KnalxzJan 29, 20161 votes

No sure about it dealing damage because then it'd basically just be a mile long skill shot but it being an auto reset would be nice for farming.

KoechopheJan 29, 20161 votes

Not disagreeing with you, because it feels wonky to have it do (what appears to be) nothing when it passes through, but Riot has been VERY careful not to give shen any form of waveclear, because of how dangerous he becomes as a split pusher. Having his Q do passthrough damage would constitute an AOE on a low cd that could be used to clear waves. So if this was actually a thing, it would have to only deal damage to champions, not minions. Just want to point that out.

Auz the RipperJan 29, 20162 votes

The simple solution to that is to make the damage champion specific, like shadow dash.

SerBlaiseJan 29, 20162 votes

he can easily build a titanic for wave clear now though. It's even in his recommended items.

LusokaJan 29, 20161 votes

I'd just like it if the animation didn't go from like a .1 second animation to a .6. Also would be great if the tooltip was changed to showcase what the passive actually does, since the skill activation doesn't cause the shield to function, it's when the skill is applied, on dash cast, and at the end of w.

Auz the RipperJan 29, 20161 votes

I understand why it happens at the end of all his abilities; so that if He hits something and the CD of Ki barrier is reduced to 0, he'll get the shield from that ability. I agree a tool tip change would be nice though.

SaiannaJan 29, 20161 votes

How about damage scales on distance sword travelled?

Smitty ManjensenJan 29, 20161 votes

Shen as a whole is bland now, more boring than he was, basically activate q and dash into enemies. that's it.

Reaver KìngJan 29, 20161 votes

I would agree with you, but after playing some games with him and seeing the amount of dmg your autos do after hitting them with the q is just crazy. Like for instance, I was 4 shotting a renekton in lane