Chromas are targeting the wrong audience and are going to sink again, please hear me out.

Namazu Ebisu··50 votes·2,896 views

After the latest news about Chromas, i feel like Riot is missing the whole point of why Chromas failed in the first place and need a bigger rework.

The first thing i didn't like with Chromas when they came out is how random they are and inconsistent. Riot choose skins to have chromas out of thousand skins and the community has no word on it. Why is this a problem you ask ? Well let's take a look with some maths :

  • Teemo gets a Chroma on Cottontail Teemo.

  • Teemo has 2,95% pickrate this patch. Out of...let's say 50 million players, that makes approximately 1,5 million teemo players in the world (and most of them are not mains, just played or tested etc...)

  • Out of all those Teemos, i figured that over 50% of those Teemo players don't own a skin and for the few people that own a skin on Teemo there is even fewer people that own Cottontail Teemo (because he has a lot of skins). Maybe 10% of all 1,5m Teemo players.

  • And out of that 10%, how many of them are interested in buying a Chroma for their skin ?

Do you understand where i'm going ? The numbers are INCREDIBELY SMALL, even for other skins, because most of those skins are not a safe value for money.

Now let's take this on another angle : what if Chromas were mostly or only for default classic skins like Zac or Fizz ? That would be much more approchable, since people can buy those champions for IP, and if they can't afford to get a skin, they'd have two options :

  • Wait for the IP sale (twice a year and i feel like this is a scam)

  • Mastery, as Riot stated they're still working on it, here's how i see it : if you get to mastery 5 with that champion, each game you have a very low chance of getting a chroma token that you can use 2 or 3 of them to craft a chroma for that champion, exactly like mastery tokens ! (only with rng involved).

Don't you really feel like this is better ? Every champion could have their own chroma, and most people in the game could enjoy them and own them. The way it is now, we target a minority of people owning a bunch of random skins that might not even want to get those Chromas in the first place. Chromas are just a color swap, which would take 10 minutes for one to accomplish since textures are 2D based and can be easily recolored using the right tools. I don't feel like such content should be this random.

Thanks for reading, and i hope this gets to a lot of people.

51 Comments

Randomonium20 votes

The community has said of a really, really, really long time that chromas should be a mastery award. Riot refuses to listen though even though making chromas "free" would actually encourage people to buy more skins.

For example, let's say I unlock a chroma for high noon yasuo. I don't own high noon yasuo. However, now I have this chroma sitting around for him that I can't use. Now I am much more likely to buy high noon yasuo if it goes on sale or buy a bundle with high noon yasuo in it because I feel like I am getting a better deal since I would also unlock a chroma.

Decrit3 votes

eeeehr actually riot stated that they want to introduce chromas as mastery reward, it is written on the announcement.

also chromas can cost IP on sales, which does not sound as much as master-y but after all only committed players would spend IP on a chroma rather on a champion.

Randomonium1 votes

I know they said that originally but I haven't seen anything recent (i.e. the past 8-10 months) saying that they wanted to tie chromas to mastery.

When was the last time chromas were on sale for IP? I must have missed that one.

Decrit1 votes

It was the latest announcement:

http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/maO0tyub-an-update-on-chromas

the TL;DR IS

"Chromas will be priced at 290 RP each, and will also be available in discounted bundles for the collectors out there. For those of you who love a chance to spend IP, we’re also introducing recurring IP sales which will take place twice a year. The first IP sale goes from August 25, 2016 to September 8, 2016 and includes all chromas launched before August 2016.

EDIT: Sorry for not mentioning this when I posted earlier, individual chromas will be available for 2000 IP each during the sale periods. All of the chromas released before this month will be in the first sale, so you can take a look now at which ones you want to save for!

Bundle details will be available soon.

Some of you also suggested that chromas could be a reward for mastery. We’re committed to improving mastery rewards, and with the release of Hextech Crafting this year, we’re thrilled to have a way to reward you for mastery across several of our content offerings, including a chance to get free skins. We won’t be launching chromas in Hextech Crafting at this time, but it’s something we’re thinking about for future iterations. "

TheSlogs1 votes

"Mastery" we already need to grind blue essence for levels 6 and 7, who knows what ridiculous and not skill related things they could add for higher levels.

Decrit1 votes

"Mastery" is intended to be a commitment reward, not a skill one.

TheSlogs1 votes

Yes, and that's why it needs another name. Is that entirely irrelevant to the post? Yes, but I just want more people to acknowledge how silly the title "Mastery" is.

Decrit1 votes

shrug

Guess it is intended honestly. You see differently a mastery 7 vayne bronze and a mastery 7 vayne diamond ofc .

Xonra1 votes

{quoted}

eeeehr actually riot stated that they want to introduce chromas as mastery reward, it is written on the announcement.

also chromas can cost IP on sales, which does not sound as much as master-y but after all only committed players would spend IP on a chroma rather on a champion.

Unless you are like me and have had every champion for years (outside of new releases) and just stare at your IP building up with nothing else to spend it on.

Decrit1 votes

Which is then a good IP sink for all those players who committed to the game for a lot of time, which is a thing that was asked long ago.

Furor Nexis12 votes

Wat.

I was legitimately going to learn how to play Zed, buy his shockblade skin, and wear dat' pink chroma skin.

I wanna have fun lmao and being pink and zed would be hilarious.

Namazu Ebisu3 votes

I understand that feeling but how many people are willing to buy a full priced 975 skin + his recolor like you ? :/ I'd rather get a 1350 skin at this point, unless i really like and main Zed, and sadly again, minority.

I hope your post was sarcastic tho lol.

AuraCreed4 votes

To be fair the Zed recolors are hilarious - you could literally have the power rangers in a one for all game and it'd be great. Grant it that's by chance and really only applies to this but still.

Stalinium1 votes

Wait is that chroma a real thing!!!!

GaleWinUnleashed2 votes

Yes, Shockblade Zed is getting a Chroma pack soon, along with ones for Arcade MF, Cottontail Teemo, High Noon Yasuo, and Warring Kingdoms Xin Zhao.

specter42411 votes

Heroes of the Storm has recolors for skins for free

Keepe5 votes

True, but the majority of their skins ARE more expensive. =P

Minus the Mastery ones.

Ariel the Cruel5 votes

Their champions also require a lot more grinding to unlock.

Keepe1 votes

This is true, but I can honestly say it feels GREAT when you finally get your own hero/champion to master.

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

I'm still waiting for them to release the Diablo 2 assassin. Hopefully the prioritize her Martial arts tree.

Keepe1 votes

Kel'thuzad here.

Xonra1 votes

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Heroes of the Storm has recolors for skins for free

Yup. you only need to have no life to spend ALL of your time grinding worse than any grinding you've ever thought about doing in League to get just one.

There is free, then there is "Free".

Handy Sandy 4 votes

I swear, I had this name and didn't even know what Chromas were.

Insanity Song2 votes

Well Chroma means Colour sooooooo

ReZisT Lust4 votes

o wish teemos chroma was on omega and have camo on him

Oleandervine3 votes

I think Chromas, if the must cost RP, they should cost at max 200, and ideally, probably around 150. That's about as much as a Hextech box or key costs. Why would you buy a single recolor for more than the half price cost of a 520 skin on sale like Statue of Karthus, Karate Kennen, or Pharoah Nasus? And let's not forget the actual recolors still in circulation like Dryad Soraka.

WhiperSnapers3 votes

Dont forget that some chromas had multiple colors that were either too close to the original or another color in the pack. Morgana is a great example of this because of the 3 colors, one of them is a slightly darker shade of the base skin (so you are basically getting 2 for the price of 3). The point of a chroma is to stand out from the base skin, you should be able to tell imediately if someone is using a chroma. If you see a pinkZac, you know its the chroma.

Leona 's chroma pack is beautiful, but if you did a side by side comparison of all 4 (base skin + 3 chromas) how many people would be able to tell you which one was the original? Probably just the people who own the skin

GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

That's the main target audience, though; players that already have the skin and want some more variety.

WhiperSnapers1 votes

You missed my point... sure its the target audience, but how many people (that have that specific skin and are eligible to purchase the chroma pack for it) do you think actually bought it compared to chromas that actually stand out like Lucian Zac Fizz. My point is that a good chroma pack is easy to spot and will make more money than one that isnt. When buying a skin, most people do take into consideration whether it is noticeably different from the base skin or not.

Blue Moon Wolf3 votes

I don't think chroma tokens woulds pan out well. Personally I believe every game can do better than use RNG and if my time farming cloths and skills in Dragon Ball Xenoverse has taught me anything, it's that trying to get RNG based rewards causes more frustration than it's worth.

Keepe2 votes

I thought Chromas were a scam from day one. STILL DO.

Noblewind2 votes

I think chromas are really really cool. My only issue is some choices of skin. The chroma skins like Fizz, zac, and Lucian's are awesome, and so are the new Zed power ranger chromas. But who made the decision to make one for High Noon Yasuo? If I were to go through a list of champs and their skins to change up, this would be like choice #300+ but that's just me.

cocacolalips2 votes

I think all chroma skins are ugly and not amount of marketing shenanigan is going to make them any appealing.

If they are going to pursue with this idea, the only interesting and profitable option for Riot is to give the player the option to edit the color of their skins themselves (with some restrictions), the same way you customize your Sim in a Sims game.

  • For 100RP, you can customize the base model/skin and change its colors.

  • This skin cost 950RP, for 950RP+100RP you can customize this skin and change its colors.

  • This champion has 5 skins, for 250RP (number of skins*100/2), you can customize any skin you already have.

Bam, you have a product that appeals to everyone regardless of taste and preference and skin or lack of skin already owned.

Stars Shaper2 votes

I don't like how much they seem simple colors mash up without any consistent thematic and neither fitting in the entire model, it seems like some1 poured random paints on them.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

Yasuo has 22.4% Pick Rate

Namazu Ebisu4 votes

It's not ONLY about Yasuo, there are 130+ champions in the game, and out of all those 22% Yasuo again, how many of those own High Noon Yasuo ? Because most i see are without skin or just the Project one, same story all over again, a very minority.

TTK Dreadnought1 votes

You forgot Blood Moon Yasuo too.

Xonra1 votes

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You forgot Blood Moon Yasuo too.

I actually forgot that was even a thing. I don't think I've ever seen it in game.

TTK Dreadnought1 votes

i see it occasionally. I see the classic yasuo the most.

Iageri1 votes

If you own a skin...

Do the chromas come with the skin? or is the Chromas something you buy separately?

Namazu Ebisu1 votes

Separately.

Iageri1 votes

Oh.. oh...

Well..

#Not Worth then..

Namazu Ebisu1 votes

You would have to pay 975 shockblade Zed and then the Chroma 290 RP (since the new batch from PBE right now won't go on the first IP sale, Riot said).

For that price, i'd rather add 100 rp and buy Project Zed really.

Insanity Song1 votes

Buy separately

VerticalHunger1 votes

{quoted}

If you own a skin...

Do the chromas come with the skin? or is the Chromas something you buy separately?

The chromas are seperate.

Rito Staff1 votes

I dunno why it didn't work out :pp Because I'd love to have chroma for Lucian, they look awesome, maybe it's not cool on every champion

General Esdeath 1 votes

Don't tell them, let Riot and Tencent figure out the hard way.

Xonra1 votes

{quoted}

Don't tell them, let Riot and Tencent figure out the hard way.

Because they are so good about learning from their mistakes on their own :P

General Esdeath 1 votes

This is how children grow, we let them do it the hard way.

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