How i felt about Cass & Skarner after seeing them

I say Facts·Mar 21, 2018·7 votes·1,197 views

So when i played i was so interested in playing her with all of these poison abilities and venoms and that's something i liked about the character because she is a half snake. is the scorpion character and he is supposed to be the most venemous and toxin champion in game with deadly poison abilities but there is really nothing matches him in his abilities, he is very underwhelming champion and he doesn't meet his personality of being a "deserter scorpion" When is his VGU happening?

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Z3SleeperMar 21, 20185 votes

Crystal venom. It crystallizes people.

His E applies crystal venom as does his ult.

Venom =/= poison

ACTIVE: Skarner launches a blast of energy in the target direction, dealing magic damage to all enemies struck and slowing them for 2.5 seconds, as well as marking them with Crystal Venom for 5 seconds.

Edit: SCORPIONS ARE VENOMOUS, NOT POISONOUS. There is NO such thing as a poisonous scorpion.

I say FactsMar 21, 20184 votes

That's not a poison that's a slow and a stun

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20183 votes

Venom =/= poison.

I even said it in the post you just replied to:

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Venom =/= poison

Venom is most commonly referred to in the animal world as a sort of paralysis or other debilitating effect.

I say FactsMar 21, 20184 votes

Ya scorpions have both venom and poison, where is his poison? that's my question. it's his first thing of killing

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20183 votes

Scorpions are venomous, not poisonous. ~~Only some species of scorpions are poisonous.~~

Edit: After some quick research I found that there is no such thing as a poisonous scorpion. They are only venomous.

I say FactsMar 21, 20184 votes

That's a wrong research, The idea of damage over time is meant to be for scorpions Any other game is like that, they are deadly creatures for a reason They either paralyze a small target or poison a big target who is a threat for them or poison themselves to die Their poison is the most deadliest among all other creatures

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20183 votes

Lol based on what exactly?

BalrogahmedMar 21, 20183 votes

https://www.orkin.com/stinging-pests/scorpions/poisonous-scorpions/ Poison doesn't have to do anything to do with toxic and venom? where are you from? what's your first language

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20182 votes

Did u actually read it? Where are you from? Is this your first language?

It clearly says that venoms are neurotoxins.

Paralysis essentially. What does Skarner’s e and r do? Oh yeah, it stuns.

BalrogahmedMar 21, 20183 votes

Read Reading is a weapon Read about the facts of scorpions

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20182 votes

Read Reading is a weapon Read about the facts of scorpions

I say FactsMar 21, 20184 votes

have a reasearch in internet at least. I am not your teacher

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20182 votes

Then use that research to find this out on your own. Where do u think i got my info from?

GodJormungandrMar 21, 20183 votes

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Venom =/= poison.

Venom + toxin + poison are all one but in different effects. Venom is a paralyzing action both toxin and Poison are one but animals with poisons are called toxins and scorpions are toxins.

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20182 votes

Venom and poison are toxins. But poisin and venom aren’t one in the same.

Venom is injected, poisin is injested. Cass aflicts poison via poisin clouds and whatnot, Skarner injects venom.

And neither venom nor poison imply damage over time. Both can be paralysis effects.

Scorpions in particular though use neurotoxins.

BalrogahmedMar 21, 20183 votes

You can't call poisonous on any animal, but animals who have venom are types some are acidic some are toxins some are venemous.

Scorpions are Acidic and venemous, it means they paralyze their prey with their venom and they spray their acid inside the victim's body so by other meanings, they do have a poison but we don't call it a poisonous we call it acidic venom.

EDIT: his point is, if snakes and scorpions both have acidic venom, why do they give the half snake a poison ability while giving skarner nothing in his kit? that's his question for what i understood EDIT2: there is nothing called either poisonous and venemous scorpion, it's their acidic venom that is counted as a poison when it gets inside your body, you don't die in 1 second you die overtime, and that's how you should play skarner, you kill targets overtime

BalrogahmedMar 21, 20184 votes

It's Riot's scorpion, expect them to give him Janna's Ultimate Nothing is impossible

Bigrig107Mar 21, 20183 votes

He’s a scorpion made completely of crystal from a desert that doesn’t exist. Don’t expect him to live up to all of your real world scorpion expectations.

BalrogahmedMar 21, 20184 votes

He will still represent being scorpion of League, I disagree with you. Totally disagreed.

Bigrig107Mar 21, 20182 votes

This doesn’t make any sense. No one said every animal was going to get a “representative” in League.

He’s a ‘scorpion’ because he looks like one and uses his stinger to Impale people. Just because you think this ‘scorpion’ should be venom focused doesn’t mean he will be.

I say FactsMar 21, 20184 votes

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This doesn’t make any sense. No one said every animal was going to get a “representative” in League.

Then why other characters are "representative" in league? to what they are? you are weird lol

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20181 votes

He is venomous though. He uses crystal venom in his E and R.

OP is confusing venom with poison. They are entirely different concepts.

GodJormungandrMar 21, 20183 votes

He is a Shuriman Scorpion, a deserter type, one of the most deadliest he should be to his backstory and lore

Orange CaramelMar 21, 20183 votes

this is one of the dumbest threads i've ever read

SpaghettiVaseMar 21, 20181 votes

At this point I have to believe it's a troll, there's no way someone can be this unintentionally argumentative

SweedishGunnerMar 21, 20182 votes

His R is his venom usage.

On a side note I own scorpions as pets and Skarners body suggests he actually has a weak venom since his claws are so big. His design is mostly based on an Emperor Scorpion who's sting is comparable to that of a bee. If he had a truly dangerous venom he'd have smaller, slim claws.

GodJormungandrMar 21, 20183 votes

Cass is half snake, why she has a venom? because she is still a snake Warwick is half wolf, why he has bloodscent? because he is still a wolf Volibear is a bear and he has his Bite and flip Skarner is a scorpion.. where is his venom? you make no sense with what you saying, he is a scorpion after all, he'll suppose to be the most venemous, did you wonder why Riot mentioned him as tier 2 VGU after they are done with Nunu Akali Morgana Kayle ? They mentioned Skarner Mordekaiser Fiddlesticks Pantheon Right after these 4 for a reason, Stop saying nonsense, Skarner is Shuriman Scorpion i am a skarner main read all of his lore back in 7 years ago, he is a deserter type of a scorpion a ruthless and deadly one, it's why people want him to be in meta, he isn't meeting his personality,,, he is just too far from the character himself and the meta of his lore. End of story

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20181 votes

Funkin DunkinMar 21, 20181 votes

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Cass is half snake, why she has a venom? because she is still a snake Warwick is half wolf, why he has bloodscent? because he is still a wolf Volibear is a bear and he has his Bite and flip Skarner is a scorpion.. where is his venom? you make no sense with what you saying, he is a scorpion after all, he'll suppose to be the most venemous, did you wonder why Riot mentioned him as tier 2 VGU after they are done with ? They mentioned Right after these 4 for a reason, Stop saying nonsense, Skarner is Shuriman Scorpion i am a skarner main read all of his lore back in 7 years ago, he is a deserter type of a scorpion a ruthless and deadly one, it's why people want him to be in meta, he isn't meeting his personality,,, he is just too far from the character himself and the meta of his lore. End of story

Real Skarner Mains play him top lane

ThefrostyvikingMar 21, 20182 votes

He is the scorpion version of a snake that doesn't use venom :P

Z3SleeperMar 21, 20181 votes

ThefrostyvikingMar 21, 20181 votes

....Right i forgot about that, its the mark that causes him to stun the victim if he hits them again once it hits?

Alright, so he is slightly venomous but not much^^

LOSINGISMYPRIDEMar 21, 20182 votes

the bigger the scorpion are the bigger their claw and less venomous theyre .

VeraskaMar 21, 20181 votes

Skarners stinger and claws apply a magic venom that doesnt poison, but crystalize his opponents, its seen in his passive and R (and his E a bit too)

BalrogahmedMar 21, 20183 votes

His passive is all about attack speed His E is you slow a target with a crystalline object slows the target and applies an effect where you have to hit the target in melee range to stun it His R: he uses his sting to paralyze the target and moves them anywhere [ that's a right thing about the facts and fictions about scorpions] But his gameplay doesn't have any acidic venom or a poison

SpaghettiVaseMar 21, 20181 votes

After reading this entire comment section I only have to imagine that you already have this idea in your head about what you want skarner to be based on your very skewed notion of what scorpion venom is like. Venom doesn't have to kill you after a period or time. There are venomous creatures out in the world where the venom is only used for paralysing their prey. Skarner does exactly this.

I say FactsMar 21, 20184 votes

I don't think you know what scorpions are, just like the guy who mentioned them being not venemous, read about them. They are acidic and toxin creatures. their acidic venom is counted as a poison, it'll kill you overtime if you are his target.

Edit: Scorpions are Acidic and Venemous Creatures if they sting their prey they'll kill it overtime, if you have never seen or read about one before .search in google, There is nothing called "paralyzing Scorpion" that's his venom that paralize after it sprays the acid inside the victim's body and you can talk to someone else in this board who mentioned this comment he gave us a link too

SpaghettiVaseMar 21, 20181 votes

Again you seem to be generalizing scorpions into this category of "they do this." Not all scorpions are the same. Not all scorpion venom is the same. That all being said this is also a fictional game and a character that is based on a real life animal doesn't have to be everything that animal is. Why does volibear get lightening powers? Bears don't have lightening powers.

I say FactsMar 21, 20184 votes

Yes but what would you say when you first look on a scorpion character in a game that only has 1 scorpion? he is definitely gonna be lethal and venemous and he is not

Edit: another research i had known that Middle Eastern Scorpions and African Scorpions are the most deadly creatures with their venom. And where is Skarner from? he is Shuriman isn't he? he is egyption scorpion compared to his lore a middle eastern one. So he really needs to have deadly venom to match his back story can't argue with that one

SpaghettiVaseMar 21, 20181 votes

Again why are you saying because they make these comparisons to the real world they MUST be exactly the same. Dude let it go.

I say FactsMar 21, 20184 votes

Exactly that's my point, you had no argument when i said Skarner is Shuriman. His back story his lore meant him to be very deadly and venemous while he is not and that's exactly my point. otherwise i would say not all scorpions are venemous but no i can't hide that skarner is meant to be the deadly one.