Taliyah, a ranged mage that does phys damage?

9kPluzZ··9 votes·2,582 views

What if she was a ranged mage that did physical damage? I mean if shes throwing rocks it wouldnt make sense for her to do magic damage. Rocks are hard. Plus it might make her like a counterpart to yasuo. That would be sick!

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Quepha7 votes

Rocks deal magic damage, ask Malphite.

Igotlazy4 votes

Gnar Says otherwise

Quepha1 votes

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Gnar Says otherwise

Those are boulders, not rocks.

CarbRundum4 votes

Boulders are a type of rock

Quepha4 votes

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Boulders are a type of rock

Then why don't they deal magical damage?

EndlessSorcerer6 votes

Because boulders are a magic rock.

Therefore, they deal physical damage.

kJs1 votes

Malphite uses his own magic rocks. Taliyah uses rocks that can be found everywhere.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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Rocks deal magic damage, ask Malphite.

Malphite still deals a lot of physical damage due to his W and his high base AD, also possibly Iceborn Gauntlet (if he decides to build it)

he still deals more magic than physical damage, though

Also, AD Malphite used to be a thing before Riot reworked his W

Spoofghoul1 votes

lol yea

things ive seen malpite's do

have near unlimited movespeed, as in ran around the map in less then 1 second

have 1650+ ad

have 800+ armor

Be an aoe nuclear bomb with 800+ ap

malphite is a strange one at times

Veraska4 votes

Malphite is all magic damage and he's a living boulder, geomagic is still magic dog

LilxPaprika1 votes

because he's alive. maybe inanimate rock does physical.

Quepha1 votes

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because he's alive. maybe inanimate rock does physical.

Sounded like the rocks were moving pretty fast to me.

Ackelope2 votes

Cars move pretty fast, too. So do asteroids. So do stars, and lots of vehicles. Are they alive too?

Quepha1 votes

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Cars move pretty fast, too. So do asteroids. So do stars, and lots of vehicles. Are they alive too?

I don't see any reason to discriminate against any of them, they have just as much of a right to be animate as the rest of us.

Kitten of Evil3 votes

But if her gimmick were "build AP to increase physical damage spells", why would you ever use her? AD champions are already strong and abundant, and she would have a really hard time buying the stats she needs (AP + armor pen), meaning that basically any other AD caster would do better. Most other stats would be wasted: crit, attack speed, lifesteal.

Azir is probably the closest counterpart, a weird marksman whose attacks scale with AP instead of AD, but that works because AP/AS are still available on items without any wasted stats (he can use CDR, mana, MP5, and health too).

9kPluzZ1 votes

slap a darius passive on a ability and boom

La Barbotte2 votes

physical mage, like him ? Zed

9kPluzZ1 votes

I was thinking builds ap but all phys spells, and maby some awesome ability/pasive that shreds armor

Zerolera1 votes

Doesn't that classify her as an AD caster?

9kPluzZ1 votes

yah but not melee

Zerolera3 votes

So how would you ensure she just doesn't turn into an ezreal?

LilxPaprika1 votes

or corki? or maybe thats what yo u want just in a different package

9kPluzZ1 votes

yah she could have physical damage spells but build magic damage.

Ravenhale1 votes

Heh... have her build AP that does physical damage. ^_^

Sniper 01 votes

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Heh... have her build AP that does physical damage. ^_^

But then she doesn't have access to penetration.... ;-;

Greymoore1 votes

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But then she doesn't have access to penetration.... ;-;

A passive that converts magic penetration into armor penetration?

BrolyInTheFranxx1 votes

Please, Yasuo Yasuo has all the penetration she needs.

BrolyInTheFranxx1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

MrLlamaWaffle1 votes

Maybe it's a support, LOL yeah right.

Oleandervine1 votes

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Maybe it's a support, LOL yeah right.

I actually think she will be a support. The last one was Kench, so it's possible. Plus, if you go by what she did in her story, she sounds very support-ish. She popped a soldier off the ground and into the air by making a rock launch him up, she slowed and impeded the movements of soldiers by making rock spikes erupt from the ground to keep them at bay, and then finally she encased the building in a stone prison. That sounds like a support build to me, if we go by these shows of her power as reflective of her kit design.

MrLlamaWaffle1 votes

You're right. I'm just used to supports being super boring conceptually so im not getting my hopes up. I believe Tahm was originally designed to be a top laner, if im not mistaken. Also we just got a taric rework so 2 supports in a row would be highly unlikely, but here's hoping!

Oleandervine1 votes

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You're right. I'm just used to supports being super boring conceptually so im not getting my hopes up. I believe Tahm was originally designed to be a top laner, if im not mistaken. Also we just got a taric rework so 2 supports in a row would be highly unlikely, but here's hoping!

Taric isn't actually in the lineup for new champ releases though, since he was a relaunch. They're separate pipelines, according to Riot. Which means that the last support was Kench, who was like 5 champions ago. With Taliyah here, they're restarting the chain since there's been one of each other role released since Kench. And fun fact, not only was Kench originally a top laner, he was originally Mega Gnar.

Edit: PLUS we just got a new mid lane mage with Aurelion Sol. Rarely does Riot give us back to back champs in the same role.

MrLlamaWaffle1 votes

dont get my hopes up!!

Hellioning1 votes

If Kat's knives can do magic damage, so can Taliyah's rocks.

9kPluzZ1 votes

To be fair kats knives could be specially made, therefore magical. She isnt picking up random knives from the ground.

Karma Deified1 votes

I would immediately main an AD Mage. Mainly because mage items are so damn boring in every way.

Nekusen1 votes

Ezreal TwistedFate

bottledpoop1 votes

Rocks are hard. XD XD XD this killed me Also if shes using magic to control the rock then that would intern make it a magic rock. so it makes sense that magic rocks do magic damage imo

l Helios l1 votes

I would be down for this. It would add some much needed damage diversity to mages.

EpicMusic1 votes

ad caster it is

Hat1 votes

Due to the story mentioning that she really want's to protect people and not destroy, I am thinking she might be a support.

Fanny Forecast1 votes

I know literally nothing about this champion, I've seen stuff on the boards but this is the first thread I've actually clicked...

People complaining about not having pen with the AP-Does-Physical issue, either add a pen passive (Kayle?) or just leave it. AP Fortune doesn't need pen to do shitloads of damage, neither does AD. Just give her high scalings but basically remove the ability for her to penetrate and she's pretty balanced. If you don't build against her, you're fucked, but if you do, she's not TOTALLY useless but is manageable.

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